Year in review: hearing hard truths about First Nations farmers

[chuckChuck]

Easy to say Tom because you probably had all the privilege of growing up in a stable family, with a good home, education and a supportive successful community that didn't have as many social problems to overcome.

Now try to imagine what it is like for many first nations children who through no choice of their own live in a dysfunctional family and community with poorer educational opportunities and then are expected to succeed while facing system racism in the wider community?

If it was just a lack of personal responsibility then explain how taking kids away from their family and culture and forcing children into often abusive residential schools was their personal responsibility? Residential school survivors have well documented the experience and outcomes.

But you are blaming the individual without acknowledging the other forces at work.

Its pretty clear that people no matter who they are, who are poor, who grow up in families and communities that have a lot of social problems and obstacles to success are often trapped.

Of course there are many success stories amongst the many first nations who struggle.

But you have to see the big picture and stop with the overly simplistic explanation that is simply wrong.

[kANOLA]

As long as you use history as a crutch,you never walk on two feet.

[chuckChuck]

As long as you use history as a crutch,you never walk on two feet.

Another overly simplistic uninformed view? LOL

Whats happening now on first nations is not history!

[blackpowder]

Sounds like that white privilege card getting heavy to carry.
Are you ever going to post solutions?

[WiltonRanch]

I’ll post a basic solution. Chuck you’re right it’s a complex situation but you’re as much part of the problem as the rest of it doing nothing or trying the same things which don’t work. I’ve said this countless times education is paramount. Showing up to school is step one. Building pride and a positive personal mindset is another. For those trapped in some fly in shithole with no prospects is no good. Neither is being on a reserve trapped by family situations, lack of education, crime, corruption, or no mental wherewithal to get out. It’s no different than an inner city hood. If it takes building some cultural awareness and pride in oneself by all means. However, blaming previous generations and calling everyone colonizers does nothing for anyone. 40 years later it’s still the same if not worse. No one is going back to Europe and no one is going back to living like they did 150 years ago. It is complex to fix but the rubber needs to hit the road and both sides need to contribute to the solution or it then looks like another failed attempt by the white man to right wrongs done years ago.

[Guest]

Sounds like that white privilege card getting heavy to carry.
Are you ever going to post solutions?

hey, i know one
make chiefs and councils accountable for the massive amounts of money that never makes it to the good citizens on reserves
wonder why no one has ever thought of doing that ? wait now .........

[jazz]

Native guy spits some truth....

https://twitter.com/ReganCanadian/status/1612706548903718912

[sumdumguy]

hey, i know one
make chiefs and councils accountable for the massive amounts of money that never makes it to the good citizens on reserves
wonder why no one has ever thought of doing that ? wait now .........

Chiefs family treated one way, the weak underlings treated much differently - maybe?

[TOM4CWB]

I have a neighbour [CPA] that did audits in NWT ... during the Harper years. A little accountability in budgets and how funds were spent... went a long way to guiding leadership in their northern communities.

JT soon ended that... and the gong shows returned in short order. Sad.

We get the governments and leadership we deserve/elect... what we sow... we reap. Universal application....

Liberals historically are 'looking' for 'low hanging fruit' on election day in native communities.

Blessings and Wisdom to those folks... it is a wild struggle to administrate those funds fairly... when JT boasts 'the budget balances itself'.

[chuckChuck]

For sure accountability on many reserves is lacking.

But so is governance and accountability in some RMs. Should the provincial government enforce more accountability at the RM level because in many cases there is almost no understanding of what conflict of interest means. Most Councillors would complain like hell if the province stepped in.

Again its not just a question of accountability with first nations. Many of you including Tom fail to understand that the problems facing first nations goes well beyond the running of reserves.

Systemic racism in the wider community is one of the problems. Along with under funding of housing, infrastructure, education and healthcare.

It is a shared responsibility.

[Sheepwheat]

For sure accountability on many reserves is lacking.

But so is governance and accountability in some RMs. Should the provincial government enforce more accountability at the RM level because in many cases there is almost no understanding of what conflict of interest means. Most Councillors would complain like hell if the province stepped in.

Again its not just a question of accountability with first nations. Many of you including Tom fail to understand that the problems facing first nations goes well beyond the running of reserves.

Systemic racism in the wider community is one of the problems. Along with under funding of housing, infrastructure, education and healthcare.

It is a shared responsibility.

Which side is raised and taught to detest the other side? That needs to stop. Good luck with that.

[shtferbrains]

Even with the obvious problems at RM'S they are the most accountable for our tax dollars we provide.
Please don't get the federal or provincial governments any more involved as that never makes thing more efficient.

[chuckChuck]

That is what reconciliation is about.

And the younger generations are learning the history and stories and attitudes are changing on both sides.

When Conservative Steve Harper made that apology for residential schools it was a watershed moment.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Some interesting hypocrisy from the left related to this topic in the news lately.
Friedland is publicly upset that people keep bringing up her Nazi grandfather.
And I happen to agree with her on this one. It is not fair to smear her with the crimes of her grandfather from 80 years ago.
However, as we see from the discourse on this thread, all white people are being accused of the crimes of our ancestors. Even white people whose ancestors weren't even in this country when these crimes took place.
In both cases, it is not fair to judge the actions by the standards of today. It is not hard to understand how ethnic ukrainians could have had sympathies for the Nazis as the lesser of the two evils, after all they had been through at the hands of the soviets. What a terrible situation to be in, you have to choose allegiances, between two different monsters.

[Sheepwheat]

That is what reconciliation is about.

And the younger generations are learning the history and stories and attitudes are changing on both sides.

When Conservative Steve Harper made that apology for residential schools it was a watershed moment.

Nothing changed. Since the apology, it’s gotten worse. The apology meant nothing to one side, nothing at all.

Revised history is different than true history.