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    Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
    And $25-30,000 more than a similar equipped F150
    Never ever pay for itself. Add in 1/2 the range as advertised and it becomes very expensive to own
    If you add in all those subsidies on top of subsidies that are being added to the nation's debt how much does an EV actually cost?
    A lot more than the payments the owner makes?
    Kind of like a buy now pay later for the taxpayer.
    But most just pay but get nothing.

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      Originally posted by shtferbrains View Post
      If you add in all those subsidies on top of subsidies that are being added to the nation's debt how much does an EV actually cost?
      A lot more than the payments the owner makes?
      Kind of like a buy now pay later for the taxpayer.
      But most just pay but get nothing.
      What will the cost be to do nothing.? Can not expect Insurance and governments to pay for disasters forever.

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        Originally posted by newguy View Post
        What will the cost be to do nothing.? Can not expect Insurance and governments to pay for disasters forever.
        What disasters?

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          Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
          Supports for a revenue generating industry that exists from a natural demand. An economic engine. That generates taxable, new dollars, real income at all levels for all participants.
          Compared to an as yet artificial industry existing solely on legislated demand. Creating no new, exportable, real income. That ignores supply of storage and transmission technology along with infrastructure, all decades away.
          Not sure why Socialism's default is push economics when demand pull is proven. Or why they support subsidization for their business but not another.
          Survivorship bias can hide the real solutions on new energies. Focusing on the "seen". We are pushing 2030 electrical demands on 1950s technology. Server demand alone barely sustainable. While choking the only golden goose we have.
          If all the naturally generated dollars that are on spin cycle making phony dollars were spent on new energies research I would support it.
          The Dunce in Economics Class is in the lead and running amok while 2/3 of the planet watches and salivates. Some posts on here leave me dumbfounded.
          Agree . Europe , the epicentre of green is in deep trouble …
          https://www.zerohedge.com/political/implausibility-net-zero-carbon-energy-future-now-obvious

          From the article ..

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            Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
            What disasters?
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              Jazz. Now overlay deaths from famine in those same years. By country/region illuminating also.
              The regions with the lowest deaths are now the same who couldn't grasp the laws at play during a game of Monopoly or Hold 'em.
              Chuck's heroes are traitors or fools born from a full belly. Completely ignorant by definition.
              Last edited by blackpowder; Mar 29, 2023, 13:51.

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                Originally posted by newguy View Post
                What will the cost be to do nothing.? Can not expect Insurance and governments to pay for disasters forever.
                YES !what disasters? You been CBC'd?

                Libtarded?

                crystal ball set on 2050? Sure but next week is iffy forecast.

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                  Tornado in the states fake news.Weather events around the world are more severe and more frequent.Are you saying they do not happen?Just curious .What political leader believes that our climate is not being changed because of human beings.???

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                    They have ALWAYS happened, nothing is new, only in Media's mind to SCARE you. And $$ to the rich bastards that will get richer on societies' FEAR. Covid worked, next up, the weather will kill us!

                    Oldguy here has seen it before, you are just too NEW

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                      Originally posted by fjlip View Post
                      They have ALWAYS happened, nothing is new, only in Media's mind to SCARE you. And $$ to the rich bastards that will get richer on societies' FEAR. Covid worked, next up, the weather will kill us!

                      Oldguy here has seen it before, you are just too NEW
                      So what political leader agrees with you.?

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                        I tend to go along with the head guys from Suncor. complex issue

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                          Originally posted by newguy View Post
                          I tend to go along with the head guys from Suncor. complex issue
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                            Originally posted by newguy View Post
                            So what political leader agrees with you.?
                            This says it all right here... When you look to politicians to form your moral stance/belief on an issuse, you know any chance of critical thinking has long been extinct in that individual.

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                              POLITICAL? So that's what all the Climate Scaremongering is! A cult of political following sheep.
                              How about thinking reasoning and seeing the stupidity of it all. Man change the earth/weather/climate? With taxes? Grow up people you are being SUCKERED...again.

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                                Originally posted by newguy View Post
                                I tend to go along with the head guys from Suncor. complex issue
                                The guys from suncor were going along to get along hoping they would get some climate cash, just like everyone with their hand out in this country.

                                They (like Kenny) learned the hard way not a dollar extra for any reason will be sent into Ab and Sk, ever, no matter how much simping they do.

                                Carbon tax is just backdoor marxism. We all know that.

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