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    The oil industry and automotive industry have both been recipients of incentives and subsidies for decades. Long before EVs showed up again.

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      Supports for a revenue generating industry that exists from a natural demand. An economic engine. That generates taxable, new dollars, real income at all levels for all participants.
      Compared to an as yet artificial industry existing solely on legislated demand. Creating no new, exportable, real income. That ignores supply of storage and transmission technology along with infrastructure, all decades away.
      Not sure why Socialism's default is push economics when demand pull is proven. Or why they support subsidization for their business but not another.
      Survivorship bias can hide the real solutions on new energies. Focusing on the "seen". We are pushing 2030 electrical demands on 1950s technology. Server demand alone barely sustainable. While choking the only golden goose we have.
      If all the naturally generated dollars that are on spin cycle making phony dollars were spent on new energies research I would support it.
      The Dunce in Economics Class is in the lead and running amok while 2/3 of the planet watches and salivates. Some posts on here leave me dumbfounded.
      Last edited by blackpowder; Mar 29, 2023, 10:17.

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        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
        The same way market share for overpriced luxury trucks have made the F150 one of the most popular vehicles tops in sales.

        Most smaller EVs are priced below the cost of a lot of overpriced trucks. Of course if you need a truck electric options are less available.

        Car companies make a lot of their profit off of overpriced trucks so they will have to adjust.

        Mandates will also play a role. But many consumers want and EV as soon as they can get one.

        Its early and Tesla is already dropping their prices to compete with the competition.
        Honestly, could you rewrite that so the rest of us might grasp what you're trying to say?

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          Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
          Honestly, could you rewrite that so the rest of us might grasp what you're trying to say?
          Pay him no mind BP, his is gone. F150 EV is a city mans virtue signal and testosterone compensator, nothing else.

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            Originally posted by jazz View Post
            Pay him no mind BP, his is gone. F150 EV is a city mans virtue signal and testosterone compensator, nothing else.

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            And $25-30,000 more than a similar equipped F150
            Never ever pay for itself. Add in 1/2 the range as advertised and it becomes very expensive to own

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              Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
              And $25-30,000 more than a similar equipped F150
              Never ever pay for itself. Add in 1/2 the range as advertised and it becomes very expensive to own
              If you add in all those subsidies on top of subsidies that are being added to the nation's debt how much does an EV actually cost?
              A lot more than the payments the owner makes?
              Kind of like a buy now pay later for the taxpayer.
              But most just pay but get nothing.

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                Originally posted by shtferbrains View Post
                If you add in all those subsidies on top of subsidies that are being added to the nation's debt how much does an EV actually cost?
                A lot more than the payments the owner makes?
                Kind of like a buy now pay later for the taxpayer.
                But most just pay but get nothing.
                What will the cost be to do nothing.? Can not expect Insurance and governments to pay for disasters forever.

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                  Originally posted by newguy View Post
                  What will the cost be to do nothing.? Can not expect Insurance and governments to pay for disasters forever.
                  What disasters?

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                    Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
                    Supports for a revenue generating industry that exists from a natural demand. An economic engine. That generates taxable, new dollars, real income at all levels for all participants.
                    Compared to an as yet artificial industry existing solely on legislated demand. Creating no new, exportable, real income. That ignores supply of storage and transmission technology along with infrastructure, all decades away.
                    Not sure why Socialism's default is push economics when demand pull is proven. Or why they support subsidization for their business but not another.
                    Survivorship bias can hide the real solutions on new energies. Focusing on the "seen". We are pushing 2030 electrical demands on 1950s technology. Server demand alone barely sustainable. While choking the only golden goose we have.
                    If all the naturally generated dollars that are on spin cycle making phony dollars were spent on new energies research I would support it.
                    The Dunce in Economics Class is in the lead and running amok while 2/3 of the planet watches and salivates. Some posts on here leave me dumbfounded.
                    Agree . Europe , the epicentre of green is in deep trouble …
                    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/implausibility-net-zero-carbon-energy-future-now-obvious

                    From the article ..

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                      Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                      What disasters?
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