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    #71
    Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
    The Abrahms will take a long time. The Lepards will be a lot easier to deploy and much more practical. Comrade Jazz ,Zelenski has had a year to run. Why would now be any different? You called him to run when the war started. You are the little coward not Zelenski.
    The Abrahms are there.
    The Bradley's are there.
    They have thousands of them sitting waiting for what the Russians are doing now.
    Satellites,battle plans,espionage, weapons development.
    NATO was formed in 1952??? to be ready for when the Russians came across the boarders.
    Sending the Abrahms and the Bradley's that were developed for the job is like saying FU Putin you have all your cards on the table and your all in.
    It's all made to enhance the whole plan.
    Will it be Apachies next?

    They have been waiting to use this stuff for 60+ yrs.

    The only question is what happens after Putin?
    Last edited by shtferbrains; Jan 25, 2023, 18:51.

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      #72
      Two long winded posts pointing fingers in every direction except at the one who is responsible for the invasion of Ukraine, Putin.

      " Even if the two economies were combined, the Ukrainian citizens would still get a smaller piece of a much bigger pie, and would have been better off economically."

      Ab5, all your intense studying of the region and you recite a statement Stalin would have used during the Holodomor.

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        #73
        This whole region has been KILLING each other for CENTURIES! What makes you think NOW is different? Old hatred/animosities. We are naïve innocent people here. It's a powder keg that could consume us all. A NUT case, ideologs in NATO, nobody seems to have peace in mind. All need to be the BIG CO CK in the hen house. Researched the village/area all grandparents came from, there were massacres in the 1940's, thank God they got the phuck out in 1929.
        Last edited by fjlip; Jan 25, 2023, 19:19.

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          #74
          i know almost notting about whats going on , was talking to sombody more informed and they said that is some of the most blood stained ground in the world , and its not simply putin bad ukraine good , as i said before pretty sad when you cant believe the media anymore

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            #75
            Originally posted by cropgrower View Post
            i know almost notting about whats going on , was talking to sombody more informed and they said that is some of the most blood stained ground in the world , and its not simply putin bad ukraine good , as i said before pretty sad when you cant believe the media anymore
            Simple question . Would the war being going on without Putin?

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              #76
              Originally posted by fjlip View Post
              This whole region has been KILLING each other for CENTURIES! What makes you think NOW is different? Old hatred/animosities. We are naïve innocent people here. It's a powder keg that could consume us all. A NUT case, ideologs in NATO, nobody seems to have peace in mind. All need to be the BIG CO CK in the hen house. Researched the village/area all grandparents came from, there were massacres in the 1940's, thank God they got the phuck out in 1929.
              So your grandparents got out a the beginning of Stalin's Holodomor, a couple of years later and they would have been starved to death. They were the lucky ones. WW2 wasn't even around in 1929.

              And somehow you expect Ukrainians to forget Stalin, as well as to think it would be different under Putin's rule?

              You Putin cheerleaders always go back to WW2 and the Nazis, go back 10 years prior WW2 then you'll understand why Ukraine is fighting.

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                #77
                It is inevitable Putin will fall from grace in his country but the question is what happens after him? He is bad enough but there are even more radical elements like Pregozin vying for power. Putin like any good tyrant has purged anyone capable of threatening his power and what are left is sycophants and morons. Kinda like Trudeau here. When the shoe falls will it mirror the clusterf*ck of 1991 to 1999 or are the major cities with it enough with reality to have a leg up as opposed to the fall of the ussr? I have this impression of oligarchs with their private armies and factions in an all out civil war. Who gets the nukes? Scary.

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                  #78
                  Keep sending it in warmongers. Its all going to scrap anyway. 31 tanks, Putin should have a few hundred drones for those with some hypersonic slap down for good measure.

                  Ukraine is already selling half of it on the black market. They have found the small arms packages in finland and other countries and even Boko Haram got some.

                  Plucky democracy eh.

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                    #79
                    Spoils of war.

                    Same old Same old.

                    Nothing like Afganastan or Libya.

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                      #80
                      I shouldn't post this late.
                      But every decade has its own reminder of the realities of who/what the species is.
                      Being highly conversive in the cultures of each combatant for every decade or period I am not.
                      As culture is the hardest thing to train/immerse an undercover agent in,
                      I believe we are ill served by bickering about the leaders except as a study of the times and culture they led in. History without contemporary study buffalo chips.
                      Always forgive, never forget.
                      I see nothing new or alarming today.
                      Do our armchair generals understand as much about being Russian as we do Chinese or whatever? Keep your powder dry. That advice will never change.

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