Really Sickens Me

[chuckChuck]

i need a yes or no reply from glenn, from each question.

It is ok for a transgender male who identifies as a woman with male anatomy to parade naked in front of young girls. yes/no

It is ok for a male who identifies as a with male anatomy to parade naked in front of young girls. yes/no

No and No.

But these are very rare occurrences. The number of transgender women with male anatomy is probably a super small number. And according to our premier the law states that transgender people have to be accommodated in some way. And for parents who object they can also be accommodated in someway.

Is it okay for a transgender woman with female anatomy to be in a female change room? Yes or no?

Is it okay for a lesbian to be in a female change room? Yes or No?

Is it okay for a male homosexual to be in a male change room? Yes or No?


So the reality is society is changing and accepting LGBQT people, different genders and trans people whether you accept them or not. The rules around bathrooms and change rooms in public places are also changing.

And it is up to the facilities to follow the law and accommodate the needs of all users without discrimination.

Again according to a City councilor who received reports on what happened from staff there was not a big issue here.

“The City’s understanding of what occurred is substantively different than what has been reported on social media,” said Kirton. “We have no reason to believe any inappropriate behaviour occurred.” Kirton encourages anyone with concerns about inappropriate behaviour to report it.

But if you want to rely on unconfirmed social media reports from those who don't accept transgender people of all types good luck because you are playing the rumour game.

[furrowtickler]

This has nothing to do with accepting LGBQT communities.
This is about a sick individual in a little girls change room … don’t spin this into something it’s not .

[binthere]

Chuck your just being obtuse again by deliberately ignoring the adult to child assault factor.

[Sheepwheat]

Chuck your just being obtuse again by deliberately ignoring the adult to child assault factor.

Just sick. Chuck, you’re sick.

[Landdownunder]

yes yes yes from me.

[blackpowder]

From the Western Standard

Saskatoon councillor breaks city’s silence on the 'naked man' in the little girls changing room

Councillor David Kirton (Ward 3) sent an email to the parent to thank them for “sharing your concerns.”

However, Kirton said the naked man can stay in the girls changing room because “our society is changing” to allow “a person to choose a change room based on their gender identity regardless of physical appearance.”

Kirton said "gender identity is a protected right under the Saskatchewan Human Rights Code.”

When the Western Standard inquired to Premier Scott Moe’s office. Moe said it was a municipal responsibility.

"The government of Saskatchewan is aware of the concerns raised by parents,” said Moe.

“As the concerns involve operations of a municipal recreation facility, this would be most appropriately addressed by the municipality responsible.”

Kirton said “the City must follow the Code in implementing our policy” and it obligates “the city to accommodate transgender members of our community.”

Saskatoon has “undertaken significant work to provide more change room privacy options than ever before,” according to Kirton.

Kirton said that “upgrades such as privacy curtains and separate changing areas provide all patrons with a variety of privacy options” which are meant to “help all users of leisure facilities be as comfortable as possible.”

Kirton told the concerned parent to “reach out to a staff member, they will help you find a comfortable change room environment that suits your needs.”

In the email, Kirton does not say how the city accommodates parents who do not want a naked man walking around the changing room in front of their young daughters.

Kirton claimed that there was only one “alleged incident at Shaw Centre last Friday, January 27, regarding an individual who identifies as female using the women’s change room.”

Kirton did not reference the Western Standard story about the naked man and last Saturday’s protest outside of Saskatoon City Hall but said there were some “social media” posts.

“The City’s understanding of what occurred is substantively different than what has been reported on social media,” said Kirton.

“We have no reason to believe any inappropriate behaviour occurred.”

Kirton encourages anyone with concerns about inappropriate behaviour to report it.

“We encourage patrons to report any inappropriate behaviour they personally experience to facility staff,” said Kirton.

Kirton is “proud of the improvements made to both our policy and our infrastructure. These changes will help ensure all patrons have access to public or private change room facilities to suit their individual needs.”

Kirton did admit that “there will always be ways the City can improve our services.”

One extreme to another.
So fearful of being called out that nothing is ever said.
Nazism coming back around.
No one being sensible.
Parents, start supervising all public facilities. I'm not afraid to speak up.

[blackpowder]

No one here has ever condoned child abuse from any sector.
What is prejudiced is how our discussion is ranked. Unequal coverage makes one type more dangerous to discuss over another?
I have children. Had a mother.
Have known adult women who were abused as children.
Please let's not make one more or less important to discuss.
Take your petty agendas in the locker room with you when you escort your kids.
Cause that's where we are.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

One extreme to another.
So fearful of being called out that nothing is ever said.
Nazism coming back around.
No one being sensible.
Parents, start supervising all public facilities. I'm not afraid to speak up.

Kirton said “the City must follow the Code in implementing our policy” and it obligates “the city to accommodate transgender members of our community.”
And speaking of which, this excuse sounds a lot like that we were just following orders excuse which was popular with Nazi's the last time around.

[TSIPP]

But some people are trying to justify it or play it down. I’d think that there was parental supervision in the locker room but really how far should a woman in a locker room take it, I’ll bet if it ever happens again that shits hitting the fan.

[blackpowder]

The lady in my world currently would throw down regardless of stripe of offence. It would definitely make the news.