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    #85
    Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
    I'm trying to understand the implications of your suggestion.
    Does this only apply to those whose ancestors are ukrainian? Or does it equally apply to anyone who has Russian and ancestors?
    What about anyone with German ancestry? As far as we can tell, that is where my ancestors came from. Apparently they were so ashamed of that that they took the secret of their ancestry to the grave. Should I take your advice and show my support for everything the Germans have done? I'm assuming that my ancestors would not be proud of me if I did that.
    Who managed to escape the constant tribal warfare and genocides within the Middle East, who came here for a better life? Do they need to act like their ancestors?

    Many decades ago when my dad was completing a census, he insisted that his ethnicity was canadian. At that time, the census taker wouldn't accept that response. But it is true, most immigrants came here to get away from the old country. Not to bring the never ending feuds and hatred and poverty and corruption along with them.
    No truer words have been spoken. Ancestry dna tests are interesting but beyond that mean nothing. After your family have been in the same place for 200 years you are that place not where your great great great great grandpa came from. I identify as western Canadian even though both sides originated in the east. Been out this way long enough that this is my homeland and identity. All the UK origin means absolutely nothing to me.

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      #86
      I loved America as much as Canada but neither is particularly endearing to me anymore.

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        #87
        That feeling in your heart when singing the national anthem is gone, how does someone get it back?

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          #88
          Originally posted by TSIPP View Post
          That feeling in your heart when singing the national anthem is gone, how does someone get it back?
          Watch the recent interviews with Tamara Litch. She says that seeing Canadians of all stripes come together during the convoy converted her from a devoted separatist, into a nationalist believing that Canada is worth saving.

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            #89
            Originally posted by fjlip View Post
            Exactly AB5, ours too, no ties to their past. If our family name is googled, majority of replies say German...none admitted to that. Suspect the ancestors moved around that area. When border, ruling gov changed.
            For some reason Forage hasn't responded.

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              #90
              just read a article from a journalist i like , tricky guy at times dont know if hes a lefty or a righty.

              Anyway explained a few reasons why a conlculive victory from putin or zelensky will never happen.

              Zelensky gets armed putin will get armed via china and vice versa

              Truce "as is" niether ide will negoiate.

              Was a sobering appraisal.

              Putin by now would have expected to win Zelkensky would have expected to lose almost nil ground niether has happened.

              We are armchair experts who in reality know jack shitz or his brother john shitz.

              My freind is still there for another week but hes hoping to stay longer for the network but thinks hes gonna get pulled out as "nothing is happening" but in his words bad stuff is happening every day thats newsworthy, he films it but if his bosses dont use it thats out of his hands

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                #91
                Originally posted by biglentil
                Your friend is likely being very careful on what he reports back. Anything that frames Zelenski's Azovs in a bad light might put his life at risk.
                You have to be careful yourself using the Ukrainian Nazi argument out of Putins playbook. Chuck and countless other tankies spooked the general populace away from the reform party with the same rhetoric after the neo Nazi heritage front marched to join the reform party. Later we found out it was a csis plant who orchestrated the manoeuvre.

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                  #92
                  Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
                  You have to be careful yourself using the Ukrainian Nazi argument out of Putins playbook. Chuck and countless other tankies spooked the general populace away from the reform party with the same rhetoric after the neo Nazi heritage front marched to join the reform party. Later we found out it was a csis plant who orchestrated the manoeuvre.
                  And when the Putin cheerleaders cut and paste troops dress in and Nazi fatigues it's got to be Ukrainian soldiers.

                  Can't be staged, isn't that the same play Hitler used as and excuse to invade Poland Sept/1939?

                  Convicts seem to be used by all Commies and Dictators to fire up a war.

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                    #93
                    Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
                    You have to be careful yourself using the Ukrainian Nazi argument out of Putins playbook. Chuck and countless other tankies spooked the general populace away from the reform party with the same rhetoric after the neo Nazi heritage front marched to join the reform party. Later we found out it was a csis plant who orchestrated the manoeuvre.
                    Yeah well Leslyn Lewis and 2 other boneheaded CPC MPs just met with a nazi sympathizer and bigot from Germany and apparently she wasn't a plant! LOL

                    And the supreme leader Polly said this:

                    “Frankly, it would be better if Anderson never visited Canada in the first place. She and her racist, hateful views are not welcome here.”

                    Crypto Polly pissed off the convoy freedumbers by saying that and now they have to shut up or we are going to end up with another party to run far on the right.

                    BTW how is Mad Max doing these days? He must be in hiding?

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                      #94
                      Matt has full body armour two bodyguards and when they travel car in front and a car behind

                      He just films he's not selective and has no control over what networks show or how they comment on it.

                      Bakhmut despite media suggesting it's a Russian victory, he says it probably will be but Ukrainian forces are digging in. Russians expected to claim it 10 days ago.

                      on the ground he suggests the Wagner prisoner groups of soldiers are disorganised rabble hence why victory hasn't happened

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                        #95
                        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                        Yeah well Leslyn Lewis and 2 other boneheaded CPC MPs just met with a nazi sympathizer and bigot from Germany and apparently she wasn't a plant! LOL

                        And the supreme leader Polly said this:

                        “Frankly, it would be better if Anderson never visited Canada in the first place. She and her racist, hateful views are not welcome here.”

                        Crypto Polly pissed off the convoy freedumbers by saying that and now they have to shut up or we are going to end up with another party to run far on the right.

                        BTW how is Mad Max doing these days? He must be in hiding?
                        Lol old man. First thought I was going to get mad but then had to just laugh about how out to lunch you are. Guess I deserve your reply cause I mentioned your name in context with tankies and for that I apologize for uttering your name. Next time I will be like Harry Potter and not mention Voldemort or nor will I utter Beetleguise three times neither. In all seriousness I get that you are a dyed in the wool sjw leftist and have a hate on for anything conservative so when, and I’ll give recognition that some ultra right socons met with an ultra right German nut which Polivere was certainly po’d. However, do you think that this sort of response to this discussion was relevant to the point I was making? By default you are saying that yes the Ukrainians are Nazis and deserve to be invaded by Ukraine. Sounds absolutely ridiculous but so does your irrelevant comment.

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                          #96
                          Fk the NWO

                          The 10 rules of propaganda:
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