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    #21
    From the link above;

    "An 8R tractor can put in a 14-hour day, running continuously at 75 per cent of its peak power, or 230 kilowatts. That’s equivalent in energy to 38 Tesla Model 3 long-range batteries, said Hindman. Together, those batteries would be 48,000 pounds, double the weight and size of the tractor, and would make the tractor four times more expensive."

    48,000 pound is a tandem trailer load of batteries.
    We are investing trillions to perpetuate this bullsht.
    Last edited by shtferbrains; Mar 4, 2023, 12:50.

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      #22
      Noticed that Davidson Coop has at least six charging stations, completely surrounded by 5-foot snow bank.

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        #23
        Originally posted by shtferbrains View Post
        From the link above;

        "An 8R tractor can put in a 14-hour day, running continuously at 75 per cent of its peak power, or 230 kilowatts. That’s equivalent in energy to 38 Tesla Model 3 long-range batteries, said Hindman. Together, those batteries would be 48,000 pounds, double the weight and size of the tractor, and would make the tractor four times more expensive."

        48,000 pound is a tandem trailer load of batteries.
        We are investing trillions to perpetuate this bullsht.
        Taking these numbers at face value.
        Any semi truck has to run similar hours ( or longer if running tag team), with similar horsepower. So it takes the entire freight load of the truck and trailer just to carry enough batteries to power itself.

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          #24
          Anyone that can reason, will understand the total insanity of even talking about such crazy ideas. IMPOSSIBLE.

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            #25
            The rich nations can huff and puff all the want about achieving 2030 or 2050 targets but it is meaningless if the nations that know they have growth to keep their people fed ignore the bullshit.
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            "China's state planner underlined a greater role for coal in its power supply on Sunday, saying the fossil fuel would be used to improve the reliability and security of its energy system."

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              #26
              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
              Plug in Hybrids with longer range will cover off a lot of the issues in colder rural areas.
              When they are ready sure.
              Have you ever kept equipment working at -50?
              Everything runs all night. Whatever it takes.
              Hopefully an all new energy source too. Thinking that's going to be the answer.
              Portable, compact, efficient for weight.
              Current industrial use can't have extension cords nor enough electricity distributed or stored from fossil fuel generation.
              A new form of energy source. Until then we're fooling ourselves outside the 15 minute city.

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                #27
                Originally posted by shtferbrains View Post
                The rich nations can huff and puff all the want about achieving 2030 or 2050 targets but it is meaningless if the nations that know they have growth to keep their people fed ignore the bullshit.
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                "China's state planner underlined a greater role for coal in its power supply on Sunday, saying the fossil fuel would be used to improve the reliability and security of its energy system."
                I've got an idea.
                Why don't we tax the crap out of all our clean safe, responsible, environmentally conscious energy intensive industries, making them so uncompetitive that they are forced to relocate to China, where they can instead burn dirty coal forever more, and in the process save the environment.

                Isn't it funny how China still thinks that reliability and security of its energy system are important. They must not have got the memo that our leaders did.

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                  #28
                  European Companies are looking for new homes to get away from the high energy costs their government has imposed on them.
                  This announcement will be directed at them.

                  The political solution will not be to provide lower cost energy to attract the Europeans.
                  Easier to join a campaign to demonize the Chinese and impose high tariffs on their production.

                  Are the Bric countries planing a takeover or we giving it to them?

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                    #29
                    Ctv news.
                    Regina buying Electric buses.
                    1 bus costs 1.3 million.
                    1 diesel bus costs 750,000..
                    Interesting cost comparison.
                    News makes it sound like charging is free...
                    Good way to brain wash people..

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                      #30
                      It’s a little like last week when CTV was reporting about the guy near Saskatoon that built his own greenhouse, it was 32 degrees inside but CTV totally forgot to mention the greenhouse has a wood stove and a natural gas furnace. CTV=fake news.

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