For all you EV Promoters

[chuckChuck]

Hamloc we already know renewables are often intermittent. Stop repeating yourself! LOL

Hydro isn't though. Nor is geothermal. They all have a fit if we are going to need more electricity.

So stop worrying you are not going to freeze in the dark before you die!

And why are you only ranting on about the subsidies to the new battery plant in Ontario? Conservative Doug Ford was very happy to get the plant and put lots of money in.

But what about the subsidies and give aways to the oil industry in Alberta? Crickets!

Danny Smith is giving millions to the oil industry to clean up existing oil wells they own and should pay for themselves.

You can't stop EVs and the transition away from ICE cars no matter how much you complain.

[Partners]

Life expectancy of a EV bus is 12 yrs.
Never going to break even on the additional cost compared diesel.

[shtferbrains]

"Stop repeating yourself! LOL"

[shtferbrains]

I assume that Regina was like most cities, and once had a fleet of clean, quiet, low maintenance, zero emissions electric trolley buses which never needed to stop to recharge or refill and weren't negatively impacted by cold weather?
And in the name of progress, all of the infrastructure was torn down.
And now, this is considered progress?

Used to ride those old Trolleys in Vancouver. It was the best way to get around the City as there is no where to park. If you do find a spot it is expensive.

They are a great system there as they have high population density and a bus comes about every 5 minutes. You don't have to stand waiting for 1/2hr like Saskatoon. Sometimes they drop you off in some scary spots .

Still use them when I go there.

[fjlip]

"You can't stop EVs and the transition away from ICE cars no matter how much you complain. "

Oh ya, consumer revolt will kill them. Sky high prices of minerals needed as they get scarce.

FIRES in batteries. Expensive disposal, ridiculous complex repair protocols. Electrical grid FAILURES, need to chose between a car and heat?

Shit storm of costs coming...

[Hamloc]

Hamloc we already know renewables are often intermittent. Stop repeating yourself! LOL

Hydro isn't though. Nor is geothermal. They all have a fit if we are going to need more electricity.

So stop worrying you are not going to freeze in the dark before you die!

And why are you only ranting on about the subsidies to the new battery plant in Ontario? Conservative Doug Ford was very happy to get the plant and put lots of money in.

But what about the subsidies and give aways to the oil industry in Alberta? Crickets!

Danny Smith is giving millions to the oil industry to clean up existing oil wells they own and should pay for themselves.

You can't stop EVs and the transition away from ICE cars no matter how much you complain.

Interesting that you bring up hydro. In Alberta we have a potential 894 megawatts of potential generation from hydro. This morning Hydro is producing 93 megawatts out of a potential 894 or 10.4% of capacity. Wind at 255 megawatts is producing at 7.1% of capacity. What is left of our coal generators is producing 815 megawatts out of a potential 820, so 99.5% of capacity. Huh, maybe the bag phone wasn’t so bad after all!

[chuckChuck]

Interesting that you bring up hydro. In Alberta we have a potential 894 megawatts of potential generation from hydro. This morning Hydro is producing 93 megawatts out of a potential 894 or 10.4% of capacity. Wind at 255 megawatts is producing at 7.1% of capacity. What is left of our coal generators is producing 815 megawatts out of a potential 820, so 99.5% of capacity. Huh, maybe the bag phone wasn’t so bad after all!

So hydro is no good now too! And there are no gas plants in Alberta? You should be running the AESO because they obviously don't know what they are doing! LOL

Cant wait to hear how you like using your old bag phone!

[Hamloc]

So hydro is no good now too! And there are no gas plants in Alberta? You should be running the AESO because they obviously don't know what they are doing! LOL

Cant wait to hear how you like using your old bag phone!

Actually Chuck2 I have no issue with hydroelectric generation. My point was, which you chose to ignore, that Alberta has 3 main sources of renewable electricity, wind, solar and hydro. When I looked at the AESO supply demand page none of the 3 was producing at much over 10% of capacity. I was simply pointing out that coal(the electrical generation equivalent of the bag phone in your world) was producing very close to 100% and renewables (the electrical generation of a smart phone in your world) was producing at 10% or less.

Getting back to hydro. Site C dam in B.C. was originally envisioned back in the early 80’s. I believe it was decided somewhere around 2010 to build it and completion date is now 2025. How long do you think in today’s Canada it would take to build the next hydroelectric dam? Incompetence is king in today’s federal government in Canada!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

You can't stop EVs and the transition away from ICE cars no matter how much you complain.

Spoken like a true communist. You would have really been right in your element on the central planning committee in charge of the 5-year plan.
You peasants will drive a Lada and you will like it. We will only build enough to meet 10% of demand, and you will be on a waiting list for 10 years to get the Lada. Anyone who complains that they want more vehicles or more suitable or more reliable vehicles, or shorter waiting lists will be sent to the gulag. I'm from the government and only I know best what's best for you.
Wait a minute, this isn't entirely fiction, given your history with the CWB.

[Partners]

Consumers will vote with their wallets..
Long lines of EV vehicles on dealers lots will change things.