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    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
    You are wrong.

    Some of the abusers are still alive. The last residential school closed in the 1990s.

    "Investigators hired by the federal government have located thousands of people accused of physically and sexually abusing students at Canada's Indian residential schools — though they may never face criminal charges.

    As part of the Indian Residential Schools Settlement agreement, the government located 5,315 alleged abusers, both former employees and students."

    Many of the problems and legacy of harm still exists.

    The living standards of first nations on reserves are still much lower than the majority of non indigenous Canadians.

    Are you saying current voters and governments have no ongoing responsibility to the Indian Act and the lives of first nations?
    not one bit wrong , the 5,315 that abused kids shud stand trial , not the whole population of canada , what about all the imigrants to Canada are they also part of the WE group ?

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      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
      The we refers to the fact that Indian act still exists, along with the reserves, the systemic racism, discrimination and the legacy of colonization and all the other terrible things that happened to first nations including residential schools.

      So untill we fix the many of the of the problems we created and the legacy of harm, the word we is totally appropriate.
      And what do you propose as a solution?

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        Man is chuck playing with half a deck these days. The govt was the abuser, forcing Christian schools to take on their unresolved problem 100 yrs ago. Just because I exist in an era of govt incompetence, doesnt make me part of it. Chuck thinks settlers living on rocks and cactus with a gr 4 education should have stopped it back in the day. Thats pure deflection. He wants to draw them into the blame so if there are reparations it comes from that group.

        The Indian Act has been brought up in many govts. Guess who doesnt want to give it up... the natives.

        And the govt is still the abuser. They coerce the natives every election, drawing them into stupider socialist schemes each time and surprise, they are poorer every time.

        All the natives have to so is step outside the reserves, look at what all the wealth creators are doing around them, and partner up in good faith. But they have made an enemy out of everyone that would help them, so now its just the govt and them. Good luck with that.

        When are they going to dig up those alleged grave sites.
        Last edited by jazz; Jul 11, 2023, 08:37.

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          Originally posted by jazz View Post
          Man is chuck playing with half a deck these days. The govt was the abuser, forcing Christian schools to take on their unresolved problem 100 yrs ago. Just because I exist in an era of govt incompetence, doesnt make me part of it. Chuck thinks settlers living on rocks and cactus with a gr 4 education should have stopped it back in the day. Thats pure deflection. He wants to draw them into the blame so if there are reparations it comes from that group.

          The Indian Act has been brought up in many govts. Guess who doesnt want to give it up... the natives.

          And the govt is still the abuser. They coerce the natives every election, drawing them into stupider socialist schemes each time and surprise, they are poorer every time.

          All the natives have to so is step outside the reserves, look at what all the wealth creators are doing around them, and partner up in good faith. But they have made an enemy out of everyone that would help them, so now its just the govt and them. Good luck with that.

          When are they going to dig up those alleged grave sites.
          Perfect example of W OKE Stupidity….

          CC blaming us for issues of concern from 50 years ago… that none of us had anything to do with.

          Futility… I have worked with folks of native heritage… they or their families fought in the wars caused by Germany and Japan… Russia has plenty of responsibility for genocide in Europe… Ukraine… and are back destroying civilization again…. With imperialism unrestrained… backed by China 🇨🇳 this time with India 🇮🇳 taking advantage of the opportunity to cash in on the carnage and destruction… Saudi Arabia not much better… cheering on Iranian support of Russian war efforts from the back benches. OPEC is doing similar actions…plenty of present day examples of ignorant evil destructive activities being prosecuted today… being false flagged as being caused by past actions of humanity we had no influence whatsoever to cause.

          Regardless… the attitude that… I AM , and …we on Agriville are…personally responsible somehow for these problems is annoying lunacy.

          Praying for rain… and Peaceful futures for our families…

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            Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
            And what do you propose as a solution?
            Chrétien had the solution in late 60’s, cancel Indian Act! Missed opportunity. We still need to do that. Dakota S of Saskatoon wants out. Great

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              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
              Pierre Poilievre 'does not agree' with 'straight pride' message in photo from Stampede

              https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/pierre-poilievre-does-not-agree-with-straight-pride-message-in-photo-at-stampede

              Oh shoot Pierre has gone woke! At the Calgary Stampede! The Greatest Outdoor Cowboy show on the planet no less.

              This should get the bigots and LGBQT haters all riled up.

              Who are they going to vote for now considering that Crypto and Melisssa Lantsman aren't going to turn on the LGBQT community like many of the so con sheep were hoping.

              I see Weber is back with his uncontrollable anger, foul language and bluster making stupid accusations and analogies! LOL
              Larry called out your hypocrisy which you seem to be good at doing with everyone else but when you get the figurative jersey pulled over your head you lay down on the ice and play possum.

              Polivere was raised by a same sex couple. No big deal to the majority of people. It’s a non issue except for the intolerant few and the radicals in the lgbtq community. Ffs I’m about tired of this argument like abortion or birth control. It’s personal body autonomy like a persons right to not have to sell their wheat to the cwb. Funny the champions of personal body autonomy supported the government monopoly on wheat marketing. What’s that about?

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                Originally posted by jazz View Post
                Man is chuck playing with half a deck these days. The govt was the abuser, forcing Christian schools to take on their unresolved problem 100 yrs ago. Just because I exist in an era of govt incompetence, doesnt make me part of it. Chuck thinks settlers living on rocks and cactus with a gr 4 education should have stopped it back in the day. Thats pure deflection. He wants to draw them into the blame so if there are reparations it comes from that group.

                The Indian Act has been brought up in many govts. Guess who doesnt want to give it up... the natives.

                And the govt is still the abuser. They coerce the natives every election, drawing them into stupider socialist schemes each time and surprise, they are poorer every time.

                All the natives have to so is step outside the reserves, look at what all the wealth creators are doing around them, and partner up in good faith. But they have made an enemy out of everyone that would help them, so now its just the govt and them. Good luck with that.

                When are they going to dig up those alleged grave sites.
                Thinking about gravesites, there are many tiny gravesites without markers in our cemeteries. Does that mean that those little people were murdered? No, it means, the markers were wooden and deteriorated in a hundred or more years. There were prairie fires that destroyed a lot of cemeteries too. Communication was almost non- existent, so how do you notify natives dispersed in bush and on trap lines that their child was ill and needed them? Or how would one get rid of the unclaimed body humanely? Think

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                  Originally posted by wiseguy
                  Pierre's parents were Donald and Marlene Poilievre !
                  Gosh my info was crap then. Even so chuckles is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill and in the process has contradicted himself for decades. Pompous twat.

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                    Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
                    Gosh my info was crap then. Even so chuckles is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill and in the process has contradicted himself for decades. Pompous twat.
                    His adopted dad switched sides after the ninth inning

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                      Originally posted by cropgrower View Post
                      not one bit wrong , the 5,315 that abused kids shud stand trial , not the whole population of canada , what about all the imigrants to Canada are they also part of the WE group ?
                      Sardine can lid for the men ,simple operation, never to late
                      Same with that *** prick that just got sent to minimum security

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                        Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
                        Thinking about gravesites, there are many tiny gravesites without markers in our cemeteries. Does that mean that those little people were murdered? No, it means, the markers were wooden and deteriorated in a hundred or more years. There were prairie fires that destroyed a lot of cemeteries too. Communication was almost non- existent, so how do you notify natives dispersed in bush and on trap lines that their child was ill and needed them? Or how would one get rid of the unclaimed body humanely? Think
                        Lots of graves on home quarters and what once was a home quarters, lots of the unmarked graves near the residential schools are farmers and people of European decent because the schools usually had a church near by.

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                          If you want a solution, you can start by acknowledging the harm that was done and admit that the legacy of the harm is still with us today in broken dysfunctional communities.

                          Harper apologized for the residential schools even though his government had nothing to do with them.

                          Many Conservatives want to blame first nations for all their problems, as if previous governments had nothing to do with what happened.

                          The residential school legacy continues and so does the very negative and unsympathetic attitude towards first nations people amongst some people.

                          Instead of blaming the victims of cultural genocide who lost their land and were put on uneconomic reserves with few resources so that settlers could take their land. Try to imagine how you would feel if the same happened to you.

                          Its well past time for reconciliation and working together to improves the lives of first nations. We will all be better off the sooner it happens.

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                            dont think their is anybody here that believes their was no harm done , but we are not one single bit to blame , what is the answer now ? no point ranting about what happened years ago nobody can go back and change that , what NOW ?

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                              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                              If you want a solution, you can start by acknowledging the harm that was done and admit that the legacy of the harm is still with us today in broken dysfunctional communities.

                              Harper apologized for the residential schools even though his government had nothing to do with them.

                              Many Conservatives want to blame first nations for all their problems, as if previous governments had nothing to do with what happened.

                              The residential school legacy continues and so does the very negative and unsympathetic attitude towards first nations people amongst some people.

                              Instead of blaming the victims of cultural genocide who lost their land and were put on uneconomic reserves with few resources so that settlers could take their land. Try to imagine how you would feel if the same happened to you.

                              Its well past time for reconciliation and working together to improves the lives of first nations. We will all be better off the sooner it happens.
                              And how effective has that victimhood strategy been? By what measures have their lives improved with all of the apologies and acknowledgments, canceling politicians, toppling statues, renaming landmarks etc? Or is this not a results based solution?
                              Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Jul 12, 2023, 07:49.

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                                in fact blaming people for something they did not do like you are doing CC makes folk more resentfull to the whole cause , so use your brain before you do more harm

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