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    #61
    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post

    You don't you think science and knowledge have advanced a bit since the good ol days of yore.
    You don't think that scientists throughout the ages have said the exact same thing about their predecessors?

    You don't think that future generations won't say the same thing about our meager knowledge?

    Of course, someone who believes that science can ever be settled obviously cannot comprehend that what we currently consider cutting Edge science could ever be outdated and proven wrong.

    So I will ask again, how many peer-reviewed papers were produced by doctors belonging to credible scientific organizations in support of lobotomies?

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      #62
      was a rational intelligent conversation.

      one wonders why we take the mickey bliss out of glenn lol

      blaithin your thoughts remind me of that famous groucho marx line "id rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy"

      blaithin you add value round here

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        #63
        Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
        You don't think that scientists throughout the ages have said the exact same thing about their predecessors?

        You don't think that future generations won't say the same thing about our meager knowledge?

        Of course, someone who believes that science can ever be settled obviously cannot comprehend that what we currently consider cutting Edge science could ever be outdated and proven wrong.

        So I will ask again, how many peer-reviewed papers were produced by doctors belonging to credible scientific organizations in support of lobotomies?
        So will you believe any science? My opinion is we work with the best availble info currently known. The alternative is to follow the advice of every skeptic out there.
        Last edited by agstar77; May 10, 2023, 17:50.

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          #64
          "Before Operation Warp Speed, the typical timeframe for development and approval, as you know, could be infinity. And we were very, very happy that we were able to get things done at a level that nobody has ever seen before. The gold standard vaccine has been done in less than nine months."

          Do you know who pushed this Vax through in record time?

          Hard to believe Chuck and Aggie are some of the last supporting the results of Trump's Operation Warp Speed.

          The quote above is Trump bragging about the fastest vaccine development ever.
          Last edited by shtferbrains; May 10, 2023, 14:02.

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            #65
            Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
            So will you believe any science? My opinion is we work with the best availble info currently known. The alternative is to follow the advice of every sceptic out there.
            You are sounding like chuck, it's not a good look, you are much smarter than that.
            Science is not something that requires belief. Religions and superstitions require belief. Science requires proof and evidence. We have been through this over and over and over and over again with Chuck, who continues to claim that science is something you just have to believe hard enough in.
            And yes, following the advice of skeptics is exactly what Science is based on. Scientists are the ultimate skeptics. The entire scientific method is based upon trying to disprove the prevailing wisdom. If none of the skeptics can disprove it, then it continues to be the accepted theory until proven otherwise.
            Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; May 10, 2023, 15:49.

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              #66
              Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
              You are sounding like chuck, it's not a good look, you are much smarter than that.
              Science is not something that requires belief. Religions and superstitions require belief. Science requires proof and evidence. We have been through this over and over and over and over again with Chuck, who continues to claim that science is something you just have to believe hard enough in.
              And yes, following the advice of skeptics is exactly what Science is based on. Scientists are the ultimate skeptics. The entire scientific method is based upon trying to disprove the prevailing wisdom. If none of the skeptics can disprove it, then it continues to be the accepted theory until proven otherwise.
              Careful , you are starting to sound like BL. Again I ask at what point do you accept scientific opinion? Before or after a doctor treats you or you take a vaccination. Who is your go to authority?
              Last edited by agstar77; May 10, 2023, 18:10.

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                #67
                Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
                Careful , you are starting to sound like BL.
                Perhaps I'm reading too much into your comment. But are you suggesting that the scientific method is just another wacky conspiracy theory?

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                  #68
                  Accepting scientific opinion is one thing but you must always be open as the science changes and offers up new information. You cannot just become entrenched in one result, one study, one opinion. There is never just one result, one study, or one opinion.

                  If there were, people would be entrenched in lobotomies and wouldn’t that sound credible.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
                    Accepting scientific opinion is one thing but you must always be open as the science changes and offers up new information. You cannot just become entrenched in one result, one study, one opinion. There is never just one result, one study, or one opinion.

                    If there were, people would be entrenched in lobotomies and wouldn’t that sound credible.
                    Depends on where you get your second opinion. If it is Dr. Internet be careful.

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                      #70
                      Well unless you’re speaking directly to a scientist who conducted a study you’re pretty much getting second/third/fourth/etc hand info from Dr Internet on some level. Even Drs use the internet to do their research and form their opinions.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
                        Well unless you’re speaking directly to a scientist who conducted a study you’re pretty much getting second/third/fourth/etc hand info from Dr Internet on some level. Even Drs use the internet to do their research and form their opinions.
                        I have had doctors Google search during an appointment.

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
                          Depends on where you get your second opinion. If it is Dr. Internet be careful.
                          That is hilarious coming from the guy who spent the last 3+ years endlessly pushing medical advice about vaccines and covid on an online chat forum, and been wondering why no one takes his medical expertise seriously.
                          Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; May 10, 2023, 19:09.

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