A interesting tweet from a indigenous friend

[AlbertaFarmer5]

You don't you think science and knowledge have advanced a bit since the good ol days of yore.

You don't think that scientists throughout the ages have said the exact same thing about their predecessors?

You don't think that future generations won't say the same thing about our meager knowledge?

Of course, someone who believes that science can ever be settled obviously cannot comprehend that what we currently consider cutting Edge science could ever be outdated and proven wrong.

So I will ask again, how many peer-reviewed papers were produced by doctors belonging to credible scientific organizations in support of lobotomies?

[Landdownunder]

was a rational intelligent conversation.

one wonders why we take the mickey bliss out of glenn lol

blaithin your thoughts remind me of that famous groucho marx line "id rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy"

blaithin you add value round here

[agstar77]

You don't think that scientists throughout the ages have said the exact same thing about their predecessors?

You don't think that future generations won't say the same thing about our meager knowledge?

Of course, someone who believes that science can ever be settled obviously cannot comprehend that what we currently consider cutting Edge science could ever be outdated and proven wrong.

So I will ask again, how many peer-reviewed papers were produced by doctors belonging to credible scientific organizations in support of lobotomies?

So will you believe any science? My opinion is we work with the best availble info currently known. The alternative is to follow the advice of every skeptic out there.

[shtferbrains]

"Before Operation Warp Speed, the typical timeframe for development and approval, as you know, could be infinity. And we were very, very happy that we were able to get things done at a level that nobody has ever seen before. The gold standard vaccine has been done in less than nine months."

Do you know who pushed this Vax through in record time?

Hard to believe Chuck and Aggie are some of the last supporting the results of Trump's Operation Warp Speed.

The quote above is Trump bragging about the fastest vaccine development ever.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

So will you believe any science? My opinion is we work with the best availble info currently known. The alternative is to follow the advice of every sceptic out there.

You are sounding like chuck, it's not a good look, you are much smarter than that.
Science is not something that requires belief. Religions and superstitions require belief. Science requires proof and evidence. We have been through this over and over and over and over again with Chuck, who continues to claim that science is something you just have to believe hard enough in.
And yes, following the advice of skeptics is exactly what Science is based on. Scientists are the ultimate skeptics. The entire scientific method is based upon trying to disprove the prevailing wisdom. If none of the skeptics can disprove it, then it continues to be the accepted theory until proven otherwise.

[agstar77]

You are sounding like chuck, it's not a good look, you are much smarter than that.
Science is not something that requires belief. Religions and superstitions require belief. Science requires proof and evidence. We have been through this over and over and over and over again with Chuck, who continues to claim that science is something you just have to believe hard enough in.
And yes, following the advice of skeptics is exactly what Science is based on. Scientists are the ultimate skeptics. The entire scientific method is based upon trying to disprove the prevailing wisdom. If none of the skeptics can disprove it, then it continues to be the accepted theory until proven otherwise.

Careful , you are starting to sound like BL. Again I ask at what point do you accept scientific opinion? Before or after a doctor treats you or you take a vaccination. Who is your go to authority?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Careful , you are starting to sound like BL.

Perhaps I'm reading too much into your comment. But are you suggesting that the scientific method is just another wacky conspiracy theory?

[Blaithin]

Accepting scientific opinion is one thing but you must always be open as the science changes and offers up new information. You cannot just become entrenched in one result, one study, one opinion. There is never just one result, one study, or one opinion.

If there were, people would be entrenched in lobotomies and wouldn’t that sound credible.

[agstar77]

Accepting scientific opinion is one thing but you must always be open as the science changes and offers up new information. You cannot just become entrenched in one result, one study, one opinion. There is never just one result, one study, or one opinion.

If there were, people would be entrenched in lobotomies and wouldn’t that sound credible.

Depends on where you get your second opinion. If it is Dr. Internet be careful.

[Blaithin]

Well unless you’re speaking directly to a scientist who conducted a study you’re pretty much getting second/third/fourth/etc hand info from Dr Internet on some level. Even Drs use the internet to do their research and form their opinions.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Well unless you’re speaking directly to a scientist who conducted a study you’re pretty much getting second/third/fourth/etc hand info from Dr Internet on some level. Even Drs use the internet to do their research and form their opinions.

I have had doctors Google search during an appointment.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Depends on where you get your second opinion. If it is Dr. Internet be careful.

That is hilarious coming from the guy who spent the last 3+ years endlessly pushing medical advice about vaccines and covid on an online chat forum, and been wondering why no one takes his medical expertise seriously.

[agstar77]

That is hilarious coming from the guy who spent the last 3+ years endlessly pushing medical advice about vaccines and covid on an online chat forum, and been wondering why no one takes his medical expertise seriously.

There is a H of difference between quoting official medical advice from the health department and repeating conspiracy theories from sites like Rumble. I never claimed to be a medical expert.

[cropgrower]

and you still believe the health experts after they changed their story every few weeks ?

[chuckChuck]

Yup the flat earthers, denialists and their enablers and skeptics will tell you science is not reliable. That humanity doesn't know as much we think we do. That science is all biased.

They ignore a hundred years of scientific advancement built on cumulative research and knowledge if it doesn't suit their political views and opinions.

But they run their farms based on soil and animal science and when they get sick they still go the doctor and end up in the health care system for lab tests and diagnostics. Their kids get vaccines, antibiotics and pain killers and other treatment when needed. All based on science.

But they say we should not trust science, but they live their lives as if they do, all the while telling us that science is often wrong.

They are good at denial, but not so good at examining and admitting their own dependence on science and knowledge.

In the worst cases they end up like little lentil.