Rationing Health Care

[sumdumguy]

Your argument that our problem is a lack of personal responsibility falls flat when you look at the health of many americans who don't have adequate health insurance or health care.

In their for profit private system by most measures, americans are less healthy.

Personal responsibilty is important but so is collective responsibility.

For one thing the food industry is pushing unhealthy food in their marketing campaigns on kids who often dont have the discipline to make good decisions about healthy choices. And they don't want to reduce sugar, sodium and fat.

And you still haven't told us how for profit clinics would solve all the problems of health care and where their profit would come from? We are waiting?

This system is bogged down, do you get it? Profits would come from people who are willing to pay handsomely for prompt health service. Surely you understand that this second line would take pressure off public health care. Remember how you fought to disallow a second system with the CWB? We asked, begged and went to jail for freedom to choose, I am old enough to vividly remember.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Your argument that our problem is a lack of personal responsibility falls flat when you look at the health of many americans who don't have adequate health insurance or health care.

In their for profit private system by most measures, americans are less healthy.

Personal responsibilty is important but so is collective responsibility.

For one thing the food industry is pushing unhealthy food in their marketing campaigns on kids who often dont have the discipline to make good decisions about healthy choices. And they don't want to reduce sugar, sodium and fat.

And you still haven't told us how for profit clinics would solve all the problems of health care and where their profit would come from? We are waiting?

Who is we?

I thought it was too good to be true that you had had an epiphany and were now an advocate for personal responsibility. But why did you make an entire post dedicated to the personal choices responsible people can make that affect their health outcomes?
It is definitely much easier to blame the evil corporations for the poor choices the individuals make, that it is for anyone to accept responsibility for their own actions.

[chuckChuck]

This system is bogged down, do you get it? Profits would come from people who are willing to pay handsomely for prompt health service. Surely you understand that this second line would take pressure off public health care. Remember how you fought to disallow a second system with the CWB? We asked, begged and went to jail for freedom to choose, I am old enough to vividly remember.

So you support a two tier health care system one for the rich and one for the rest?

Well most Canadians dont!

[fjlip]

Gormley read survey results....majority do. Bigger majority in Quebec.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Gormley read survey results....majority do. Bigger majority in Quebec.

Isn't Chuck the guy who rigged the CWB poll to try to make it look like the majority of farmers wanted to keep the cwb? Some things never change.

[Landdownunder]

dead set legend AB5 same clothes size as high school well done. i tip my lid.

myself was in good shape till about 40 ive now got a wide load sign tattooed across my butt.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

dead set legend AB5 same clothes size as high school well done. i tip my lid.

myself was in good shape till about 40 ive now got a wide load sign tattooed across my butt.

Of course, I neglected to mention that I was XXXXL size back in high school, and I just graduated from high school in 2022, but it's an accomplishment nonetheless right?

[Landdownunder]

Of course, I neglected to mention that I was XXXXL size back in high school, and I just graduated from high school in 2022, but it's an accomplishment nonetheless right?

hehehe all good my freind.

guess im mystified and shall bow out of this thread cause can figure why i and people like should be almost castigated and vilified cause we pay for own health im not a socialist or communist who wants govt to do everything for me.

Im out cheers going to supermarket to mmorow to look for weight watchers easter eggs apparently you can eat twice as many for same result im in

[chuckChuck]

Here is a deeper dive into what Canadians think about healthcare from a very recent Angus Reid poll.

Public Purists, Privatization Proponents and the Curious: Canada’s three health-care mindsets

https://angusreid.org/health-care-privatization-perspectives/

Now its time for the Provinces to make the contracts for private clinics open and transparent so that taxpayers can see the costs vs the public system.

Any reluctance to do this is an indication that they have something to hide.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Now its time for the Provinces to make the contracts for private clinics open and transparent so that taxpayers can see the costs vs the public system.

Any reluctance to do this is an indication that they have something to hide.

If this is in fact the case, then we can agree on this.

In any open transparent free market system, additional competition will always result in more efficiencies, lower costs, and better service.

If the terms of these contracts is being concealed, then that sounds like corruption, and needs to be dealt with in the legal system.

[shtferbrains]

The cost for the "free" system in Saskatchewan is 7 Billion for about 1 million people.

[chuckChuck]

Health consumption expenditures per capita, U.S. dollars, PPP adjusted, 2021 or nearest year

USA $12,914 per capita
Canada $5905 per capita



https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/health-spending-u-s-compare-countries/#Health%20consumption%20expenditures%20per%20capit a,%20U.S.%20dollars,%20PPP%20adjusted,%202021%20or %20nearest%20year