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[chuckChuck]

EV vs. Gas: Which Cars Are Cheaper to Own?

We use data and simple math in an attempt to answer this very complicated question.
By Roberto Baldwin, Sasha Richie and Dave VanderWerpPublished: Oct 28, 2022

https://www.caranddriver.com/shopping-advice/a32494027/ev-vs-gas-cheaper-to-own/

Which Is Cheaper to Own?

So, by our calculations this makes the electric F-150 $2664 cheaper to own and operate over the first three years than its gas counterpart—and that’s without the tax credit. With it, it’s a substantial $10,164 less. The Kona Electric, on the other hand, is more costly than the gas version by $2041 without the tax credit, but $5459 cheaper with it. There can also be state and local incentives for EVs to factor in if those are available. Plus, as the years progress the lower costs of operating an electric vehicle (fuel and maintenance) continue to accrue.

https://www.caranddriver.com/shopping-advice/a32494027/ev-vs-gas-cheaper-to-own/

[AlbertaFarmer5]

EV vs. Gas: Which Cars Are Cheaper to Own?

We use data and simple math in an attempt to answer this very complicated question.
By Roberto Baldwin, Sasha Richie and Dave VanderWerpPublished: Oct 28, 2022

https://www.caranddriver.com/shopping-advice/a32494027/ev-vs-gas-cheaper-to-own/

Which Is Cheaper to Own?

So, by our calculations this makes the electric F-150 $2664 cheaper to own and operate over the first three years than its gas counterpart—and that’s without the tax credit. With it, it’s a substantial $10,164 less. The Kona Electric, on the other hand, is more costly than the gas version by $2041 without the tax credit, but $5459 cheaper with it. There can also be state and local incentives for EVs to factor in if those are available. Plus, as the years progress the lower costs of operating an electric vehicle (fuel and maintenance) continue to accrue.

https://www.caranddriver.com/shopping-advice/a32494027/ev-vs-gas-cheaper-to-own/

That is good news.

No more need for mandates, or subsidies. There must be savings left over for EV owners to pay their share of road taxes too, and recycling fees.
Why is Ford still projecting another 3 billion loss on their EV division this year? If your claims are correct, then that must be a mistake.
What do you suppose is the hold up?
Must be some conspiracy by the oil companies, right?

[shtferbrains]

why let the facts get in the way of a good story ? thats what happens when you have been brainwashed

[jazz]

What a bunch of total BS chuck spews. Cheaper to operate. You mean after all the nations grids have been upgraded to street level to handle a 200 amp service for every home. Like plug that one into your little calculator once.

Oh and little tip, that means no buried service to your home. Imagine abandoning all that trenched in UG service to put poles back up in your front yard.

What a bunch of tards these esg fanatics are.

And theres more;



We will go broke chasing this folly.

[fjlip]

Respond to this chuck...

https://edmontonsun.com/opinion/columnists/gunter-entire-federal-push-for-evs-and-eco-regulations-a-scam

[TOM4CWB]

It is a fallacy that underground electrical conductors can’t carry higher amperage loads…

The reality is… as the amperage load increases… the voltage must increase exponentially…

Practically the cost of underground electrical conductors rises exponentially…. While overhead power lines can be upgraded and voltage increased to supply the increased amperage requirements.

Further… EV charging requirements are exponentially more than an electrical range… for cooking… electric dryer or water heater.

Therefore the total amperage requirements for the transportation fleet running on electricity alone… is exponentially more expensive than hydrogen or hydrocarbon fuels.

Any elementary school students can figure this out… if they are actually provided with factual information.

CC is baiting us… in a cold Canadian weather climate… these EV costs increase to astronomical costs…

Cheers… as the Bible says over and over…. Don’t be deceived!!!!

[wade]

Anyone know the cost of fire insurance for an EV?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Anyone know the cost of fire insurance for an EV?

Comprehensive insurance for EVs is somewhat more expensive than ice vehicles.
I would be curious to know who covers the incidental damages from a vehicle fire. If any vehicle urns in a garage or parking garage or public place and causes other damage, I assume the insurance companies get to fight about who pays for what. Can the automotive insurance provider be responsible for the loss of a garage or house or condo unit? Do they go after the car maker themselves?

[chuckChuck]

So ICE vehicles never catch fire? LOL

And most of your auto insurance goes for collision damage risk.

But don't let that stop you from making more feeble excuses against EVs.

[chuckChuck]

Chuck2, I own the top 12 inches. The Province owns what lies beneath, they have the mineral rights, I do not. They have the right to access what they own.

They do but if you signed a surface lease 20 years ago and received a payment for permanent damage to the land, what is the value of that land and damage today? In many cases multiple times higher.

You can review the annual payment for loss of use and nuisance but you can never revise the permanent damage payment

How many of you would have been satisfied with a payment for permanent damage based on much lower land values 30 years later?

The reason it's called permanent damage is in many cases the land is permanently damaged and lost for decades.

Is the value of the production the same as 30 years ago? Nope

But whether you agree or disagree with the issues around surface leases, the surface right arbitration board will enforce access for the oil company and take the negotiation process out of the hands of the landowner if you don't agree with their plans and compensation.

So much for the concept of property rights when dealing with oil companies. Property rights are limited by government intervention and regulation in favour of the oil industry.