Electric.

[Hamloc]

First quarter results from Ford. Total vehicles sold, 1.1 million. Total EV’s sold, same time period, 12000. Still expecting to lose $3 billion this year on the Electric Vehicles Division. Real world so much different than computer models and government fantasy.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

So Quebec, the biggest producer of hydropower in Canada got to greedy and now is asking consumers to conserve electricity, go figure!!

It's almost as if the there might be a mathematical limitation to everyone trying to rob Peter to pay Paul.

Which seems to be the plan, as every power grid sabotages their own reliability, intending to draw excess from elsewhere when the sun doesn't shine, and wind doesn't blow. We are finding out what happens when we run out of Peter's to rob from.

[Hamloc]

So Quebec, the biggest producer of hydropower in Canada got to greedy and now is asking consumers to conserve electricity, go figure!!

[Taiga]

So Chuck which EV did you end up deciding on and purchase?

[jazz]

[AlbertaFarmer5]

That's why I kept my party line and out door toilet. That new expensive tech will never work! LOL

This is a great analogy chuck. Replacing the outhouse with indoor plumbing, and trying to compare that to electric cars.
The outhouse was 100% reliable, never plugged or flooded, no handle to jiggle, no parts to wear out, no power bill no water bill, didn't matter if the power went out, no sewers to freeze, or sump pumps to fail, cost almost nothing to build, and even less to maintain. But for some reason, virtually everyone was willing to spend large amounts of their own money to replace the outdoor out house with indoor plumbing, fraught with all of the well-known problems and ongoing expenses involved with that.
And everyone switched to indoor plumbing without any government mandates or subsidies or propaganda.
They switched to the new technology because the indoor experience was such an improvement over using an outhouse by every measure imaginable. The hassle and the risks and the cost were worth every penny.
Can any of that be said for electric cars?

[fjlip]

So what's wrong with ZERO C02 emissions CC?

No insane batteries, insane costs to change the planet?

[chuckChuck]

That's why I kept my party line and out door toilet. That new expensive tech will never work! LOL

[furrowtickler]

Take time to watch this, dont get rid of your ICE vehicle . This makes way more sense as it will not put a massive load on the electric grid or cost billions to invest in charging stations.

https://youtu.be/tfcktcL1la8

Canada just about to waste billions of tax dollars in the new VW battery plant that will be obsolete before its built

[jazz]

Enviro-yahoos blocking each other is just an epic self own for the climate cult.