Electric.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Left me speechless chuck. I don't have any comeback for the following accusation. I have been called a lot of things, but No one has ever accused me of being completelry . Is that a compliment or an insult?
Which completelry contradicts your claim

[chuckChuck]

That's who's that quotes are from. The utilities and their regulators and associations are warning the amateur hour politicians that their policies are destroying the reliability of the power grid.
You keep asking us to take our concerns to these very groups. That's why I brought this to your attention.
You have no comments on their concerns?

Why is it you left out the full title and some of the summary text? Because NERC is saying that "Increased, rapid deployment of wind, solar and batteries have made a positive impact,” Which completely contradicts your claim that solar and wind are a big problem for grid stability!

You should do your homework and be more carefull about posting evidence from organizations that contradicts your claims! LOL

Is it time for more personal attacks?

https://www.nerc.com/news/Headlines%20DL/Summer%20Reliability%20Assessment%20Announcement%2 0May%202023.pdf

Two-thirds of North America Faces Reliability Challenges in the Event of Widespread Heatwaves

May 17, 2023
ATLANTA – NERC’s 2023 Summer Reliability Assessment warns that two-thirds of North
America is at risk of energy shortfalls this summer during periods of extreme demand. While
there are no high-risk areas in this year’s assessment, the number of areas identified as being
at elevated risk has increased. The assessment finds that, while resources are adequate for
normal summer peak demand, if summer temperatures spike, seven areas — the U.S. West,
SPP and MISO, ERCOT, SERC Central, New England and Ontario — may face supply shortages
during higher demand levels.
“Increased, rapid deployment of wind, solar and batteries have made a positive impact,”
said Mark Olson, NERC’s manager of Reliability Assessments. “However, generator
retirements continue to increase the risks associated with extreme summer temperatures,
which factors into potential supply shortages in the western two-thirds of North America if
summer temperatures spike.”

This year’s assessment, which is summarized in a 2023 Summer Reliability Assessment
Video, finds that:
• Areas in the U.S. West are at elevated risk due to wide-area heat events that can
drive above-normal demand and strain resources and the transmission network.
• In SPP and MISO, wind energy output will be key to meeting normal summer peak
and extreme demand levels due to little excess firm capacity.
• The risk of drought and high temperatures in ERCOT may challenge system
resources and may result in emergency procedures, including the need for operator-
controlled load shedding during periods of low wind and high generator outages.
• The SERC Central region is forecasting higher peak demand and less supply capacity,
creating challenges for operators to maintain reserves in extreme scenarios.
• New England has lower available capacity than last year, resulting in a higher
likelihood of system operators using emergency procedures to manage extreme
demand conditions.
• In Ontario, extended nuclear refurbishment has reduced available capacity, limiting
system reserves needed to manage peak demand

[AlbertaFarmer5]

So you don't agree with Tom that fire made the soils of western Canada?

It must be time to change the subject?

Let the utilities figure it out. They don't need your amateur hour help or advice.

That's who the quotes are from. The utilities and their regulators and associations are warning the amateur hour politicians that their policies are destroying the reliability of the power grid.
You keep asking us to take our concerns to these very groups. That's why I brought this to your attention.
You have no comments on their concerns?

[chuckChuck]

So you don't agree with Tom that fire made the soils of western Canada?

It must be time to change the subject?

Let the utilities figure it out. They don't need your amateur hour help or advice.

[Hamloc]

Chuck, do you have any comment on what the electrical utility operators and regulators say about renewable energy destabilizing the grid in the quotes above?
You have been asking for this Information.

I can’t believe it, Chuck2 didn’t respond. I guess he couldn’t figure out how to link your question to racism and bigotry.

[chuckChuck]

Tom I don't see fire in the list of major factors affecting soil formation!

If you want more detail on the origins of soils and the different types you can read this:

Field Handbook for the Soils of Western
Canada
Section 1
Soil Genesis and Geographical Distribution

https://soilsofcanada.ca/documents/Soil%20Genesis%20and%20Geographical%20Distribution .pdf

[chuckChuck]

https://www.topcropmanager.com/grassland-developed-soils/

Factors affecting soil formation

Western Canadian soils have formed and developed over the past 10,000 years as a result of the interaction of six major factors: climate, vegetation, parent material, topography, drainage and time. The relative influence of each factor varies, and the interaction of these factors determined the type of soil that developed at the local level.

Climate, specifically temperature and precipitation level, has strongly influenced the types of native vegetation that survived and flourished over the past 10,000 years. For example, the climate of Brown soil zone is typically relatively warm, with higher evapotranspiration and lower precipitation resulting in short, drought tolerant prairie grasses being the dominant native vegetation. The Black soil zone is relatively cooler with lower evapotranspiration and higher precipitation, resulting in lusher fescue native grass vegetation.
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The type of vegetation strongly influenced soil development including the types and amounts organic matter added to the soil, which in turn influenced soil colour. Typically, the darker the soil colour, the higher the amount of soil organic matter.

Parent material refers to the various types of geological deposits which determined the minerals on which soil formed, and determined characteristics such as soil texture, soil nutrient levels and water holding capacity. For example, lacustrine parent material was deposited in glacial lakebeds. The deposited material tended to be fine textured clay and topography tended to be relatively flat to undulating and mostly stone free. This is in contrast to glacial till material with variable soil texture, gently rolling to hummocky topography and often with moderate level of stones.

Topography and slope position strongly influenced soil development. For example, soil development was minimal on the tops of a knolls versus lower slope positions. On the top knolls, water infiltration is limited and water runoff is greater versus lower slope positions with greater water infiltration and limited water runoff. Variation in stored soil moisture influenced the amount of vegetation growth, soil development, and organic matter addition to soil.

Surface drainage and internal drainage influenced soil moisture, which in turn influenced vegetation types and amount of growth and soil development.

The processes of soil development in Western Canada have taken place slowly over time during the past 10,000 years. In the past 150 years, human influence has become a seventh additional factor that continues to influence subtle to significant changes to soil. For example, the wheat-fallow system commonly used between 1920 and 1970 resulted in a significant decline in soil organic matter and contributed to extensive wind and water erosion of soil. However, in the past 30 years, the shift to continuous cropping, direct seeding and diverse crop rotations have had a profound improvement on soil quality.

[chuckChuck]

Tom you said "Our western Canadian soils were formed primarily by wildfires…"

Which means you think fire was the most important factor in the development of western canadian soils.

That is simply not true Tom. Fire release nutrients, but it doesn't create them. It releases carbon it doesn't create carbon.

Fire played a role in the temperate grasslands, but it didn't create soil from the parent materials or capture energy, carbon, and nutrients and store them in soil organic matter.

[furrowtickler]

Speaking of electric vehicles, and do-gooders who don't have a clue what they are talking about.
This lady reminds me of someone, but I can't quite place who it is?
https://twitter.com/DailyLoud/status...702124032?s=20

Probably the leader of the woke mob in her area my guess .

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Speaking of electric vehicles, and do-gooders who don't have a clue what they are talking about.
This lady reminds me of someone, but I can't quite place who it is?

https://twitter.com/DailyLoud/status/1667364272702124032?s=20