Emergency evaluations…

[Blaithin]

Of course residents, landowners, volunteers are working along side fire crews and the military to fight fires. And that's all well and good. I never said they shouldn't work together.

But who really believes that the counties and the province shouldn't declare states of emergency and evacuate residents when the risk to residents is too great?

Did anybody say States of Emergency shouldn’t be declared?

I thought the debate was whether the government should be able to force everyone to leave or if some can stay of their own volition to try and protect their property despite an evacuation being issued.

Where is your line Chuck because you’re either trying to change your opinion on the fly or you’ve twisted words so much you missed the point.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Did anybody say States of Emergency shouldn’t be declared?

Since we are in the process of distributing nicknames, how about we nickname Chuck strawman?

[blackpowder]

Safe:
Life by design must be dangerous.
Species survive by the fatal lessons of others. There is no safe in nature.
Overuse of the concept by successive generations will weaken the species.
Interesting to think that some are headed down a dead end branch of the evolutionary tree and would take our species with them.

[TOM4CWB]

Hence the Darwin Awards….

When common sense… humble people respecting responsibility and compassion for their neighbours…

Then in the spirit of community and a prosperous civilization we teach our children courage, grace, mercy, and a free and democratic nation.

Helicopters were evacuating residents NW of Edmonton… long before evacuation alerts were issued last Friday.

We are blessed that our community was able to live together through this very trying time… with relatively few problems. Balance and compassion were generally appreciated in difficult circumstances.

Peace, Blessings, and safe seeding! Praying for rain!

[chuckChuck]

The original debate was about whether counties and the province have the right to mandatory evacuations during fires, floods and other disasters.

Under the Emergency Act they clearly have that authority and even more powers. And as far as I can tell there are only very few people who think they shouldn't have that authority to put public safety first.

And none of that stops citizens and landowners from volunteering to fight fires and work with all the organizations on the ground doing the same as long as authorities including local county firefighters deem it safe to do so.

[blackpowder]

A 'debate' you crafted and enflamed.
Next time, ignore like we try to do you.

[Blaithin]

I’m busy today so don’t expect more than this…

But wtf did the Emergency Act come in to play?!

We’ve gone from mandatory evacuations to state of emergency to now we should want the Emergency Act invoked?

Gtfo.

[chuckChuck]

A 'debate' you crafted and enflamed.
Next time, ignore like we try to do you.

Huh? BP, did you not read what Tom wrote in his manifesto against government authority? Including County officials who live in the counties affected.

Here it is again. Does what he said sound fair and reasonable? Not really. He rambles on about all kinds of grievances totally unrelated to the fires and the current emergency.

So who inflamed the discussion again?

"The Pandemic has brainwashed some in authority… it happened in High River flooding…

When outsiders, “Professional paid authority figures “ lose sight and fail to comprehend the reality of why citizens choose danger over being cowardly… that our communities were built on neighbours helping each other to survive for millennia… our civilization has been brainwashed into accepting the defeat of freedom, liberty, and the faith in God and Loving each other.

When assisted suicide…. Gender reassignment… BLM riots… Trudeau calling demonstrators treasonous and seditionists… domestic terrorists for pointing out breaches of civil rights and freedoms… with armed intimidation and incarceration….

We as Canadians need a long… sober look at where our civilization was subverted and deceived.

Prayers and blessings…. Our governments have become so arrogant and laden with academic overburden… the “civil service “ being the largest employer in the whole society… we are by default now a communist society… deficits…. UN democratic votes … as property rights are smashed by bullies who confiscate by the tyranny of the majority.

Interesting times… the “government” is incapable of saving any one. We by our choices , can choose to save ourselves… with tenacious work, hearts that are understanding and charitable… free to stop evil and greed.

[chuckChuck]

I’m busy today so don’t expect more than this…

But wtf did the Emergency Act come in to play?!

We’ve gone from mandatory evacuations to state of emergency to now we should want the Emergency Act invoked?

Gtfo.

The Province and some counties have already declared a state of provincial emergency over the fires. The power to enforce mandatory evacuations falls under the act.

It has nothing to do with the Federal emergency act.

You can read the full act at the following link:

EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ACT
https://kings-printer.alberta.ca/documents/Acts/E06P8.pdf

Powers of Minister in emergency
19(1) On the making of the declaration and for the duration of the
state of emergency, the Minister may do all acts and take all
necessary proceedings including the following:
(a) put into operation an emergency plan or program;
RSA 2000
Section 19 Chapter E-6.8EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ACT
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(b) authorize or require a local authority to put into effect an
emergency plan or program for the municipality;
(c) acquire or utilize any real or personal property considered
necessary to prevent, combat or alleviate the effects of an
emergency or disaster;
(d) authorize or require or make an order to authorize or require
any qualified person to render aid of a type the person is
qualified to provide;
(e) control or prohibit or make an order to control or prohibit
travel to or from any area of Alberta;
(f) provide for or make an order to provide for the restoration
of essential facilities and the distribution of essential
supplies and provide, maintain and co-ordinate or make an
order to provide, maintain and co-ordinate emergency
medical, welfare and other essential services in any part of
Alberta;
(g) order the evacuation of persons and the removal of livestock
and personal property from any area of Alberta that is or
may be affected by a disaster and make arrangements for the
adequate care and protection of those persons or livestock
and of the personal property;
(h) authorize the entry into any building or on any land, without
warrant, by any person in the course of implementing an
emergency plan or program;
(i) cause the demolition or removal of any trees, structures or
crops if the demolition or removal is necessary or
appropriate in order to reach the scene of a disaster, or to
attempt to forestall its occurrence or to combat its progress;
(j) procure or fix prices or make an order to procure or fix
prices for food, clothing, fuel, equipment, medical supplies,
or other essential supplies and the use of any property,
services, resources or equipment within any part of Alberta
for the duration of the state of emergency;
(k) authorize the conscription or make an order for the
conscription of persons needed to meet an emergency

[blackpowder]

Yah I can read. Between my lines was a suggestion. U took his bait. I'm not taking yours. Happy seeding.