Emergency evaluations…

[shtferbrains]

"So Tom you would rather let individuals with little training, experience, equipment and knowledge of the current risks of the fires fight it on their own?"

Are you referring to the "prescribed" fire AKA controlled burn near the Banff townsite?

From your CBC;

" "Regrettably, during this incident there was loss of infrastructure and valuable personal items belonging to members of the community. Parks Canada wishes to extend sincere condolences to those community members for their loss," Tryon said "

From the Western Standard;

"A prescribed burn highlighted on the agenda of a women’s firefighting conference, held to promote “diversity and inclusion” in a male-dominated field, didn’t go well."

“We had 50 participants onsite. They were female for the most part. We do have a few men and a few folks who are non-binary.”

The idea "controlled burns " near the Banff townsite has been around for many years. The theory is there is too much old growth forest nearby and if a wildfire came through the wouldn't be able to
hold it out of the townsite.

Logging some out and replanting would never be considered.

They tried a controlled burn near Waskesiu National Park that quickly got away from them catching the Parks Canada crews unprepared to handle the wildfire that was soon out of control.

" Park Superintendent David Britton said park staff did not ignore any fire bans when performing the controlled burn that sparked the wildfire. The controlled burn got out of control May 6, he said, when wind speed increased beyond the forecast.

“We had the appropriate prescription to carry out the controlled burn,” Britton said. “At that time there were no fire bans in place in the surrounding areas.”

That fire took about 80,000 acres in the park and burned till the end of May.

Government expertise on display.

[WiltonRanch]

I see Tom has a long list of grievances from Canada is a shit hole club! LOL

So Tom you would rather let individuals with little training, experience, equipment and knowledge of the current risks of the fires fight it on their own?

How do you know that each and everyone of them is capable and not putting themselves and their families at risk?

How would have that worked in 2016 with Ft Mac Tom?

When you stay in potential disaster zone after being told to leave you not only put yourself at risk, you put emergency workers at risk when they have to come rescue you and your family, because you made the wrong decision.

Think you missed the fact the ranchers were maintaining fire breaks and wetting down areas to protect their herds. Leave them alone as that is their property and they can do what they want. You’re wired differently so I don’t think you get the point. When you are in an area where fire risk is a constant threat you are often prepared for the inevitable. It’s not some acreage owner with a garden hose refusing to leave as the fire is consuming their house. You talking out of your hat again.

[Blaithin]

Magical 300% increase in wildfires over seasonal averages, sounds just like the kind of thing paid off antifa commie clowns would sign up for during an election. Eco terrorism.

Magical?

Did you miss the week of near 30 degree heat and 50km winds from the SE? Or is that average and happens every other year on the 3rd of May?

Was almost 7 years to the day since Ft Mac. Maybe that was antifa too since fires don’t actually happen during fire season unless there’s a political motive behind them.

[WiltonRanch]

Magical?

Did you miss the week of near 30 degree heat and 50km winds from the SE? Or is that average and happens every other year on the 3rd of May?

Was almost 7 years to the day since Ft Mac. Maybe that was antifa too since fires don’t actually happen during fire season unless there’s a political motive behind them.

I agree. It was the perfect storm but isn’t it ironic how the Rez’s in around play host to a shit ton of wildfires every spring. Carelessness and firebugs 100% of the time are to blame. Lots just don’t give a shit or get mad at someone and light er up to get even. It’s screwed up but it is what it is.

[Blaithin]

Yes, I agree human stupidity is the leading cause. Especially since until now there hasn’t really been thunderstorms to be lighting strikes, these are probably all human caused on some level.

People are ignorant to the world around them. They can’t look and see that nothing has greened up yet and the temperature is smoking hot, there’s no correlation in their mind that pissing around with a fire could result in thousands of acres burning. All they seem to think is “there was snow last month!”

This same ignorance to conditions is what gives rise to great conspiracy theories to explain something that many others seen coming for weeks.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Ditto for you Agstar… right back at you…

Your comments are if nothing else…predictable and consistent…

Blessings and Prayers Safe Seeding!

In the thread about covid restrictions, Chuck told me that we should all follow rules unquestionably. Because only government knows what is best for us.

[agstar77]

In the thread about covid restrictions, agstar told me that we should all follow rules unquestionably. Because only government knows what is best for us.

That is your interpretation. Rules should always backed up by solid evidence .

[jazz]

Blaithin from 1984 to 1988 there were 30+ degree days with a wind for 4 consecutive summers and I don’t recall hundreds of out of control fires from that time period.

Occam’s razor.

Watch for the climate change narrative and bad oil and gas to come in to the picture. Same old playbook. Fear and blame.

[Blaithin]

Blaithin from 1984 to 1988 there were 30+ degree days with a wind for 4 consecutive summers and I don’t recall hundreds of out of control fires from that time period.

Occam’s razor.

Watch for the climate change narrative and bad oil and gas to come in to the picture. Same old playbook. Fear and blame.

During summer?

Or during peak fire season?

It regularly gets 30 and windy here in summer. The difference is, in summer forage is typically green and has a moisture content vastly superior to all plant matter currently trying to come out of dormancy.

Are you being purposely obtuse or you really can’t see the difference between 30 degrees at the start of May and 30 degrees in July, and why one of them is considered peak fire season?

[foragefarmer]

Think you missed the fact the ranchers were maintaining fire breaks and wetting down areas to protect their herds. Leave them alone as that is their property and they can do what they want. You’re wired differently so I don’t think you get the point. When you are in an area where fire risk is a constant threat you are often prepared for the inevitable. It’s not some acreage owner with a garden hose refusing to leave as the fire is consuming their house. You talking out of your hat again.

Who would be making the decision at the critical time when the out of control wild fire is a 1/2 mile to a mile away which ranch, farmyard, acreage, or even a house in a town has an adequate fire proof defense system to ward off an out of control wild fire.

We all know there would be those who would argue they're just as fire proof as the farmer next door who didn't have to evacuate their property because someone at the moment deem them fire proof.

Unless there are pre arranged Provincial Fire Proof Codes for properties. who would know which property could survive an out of control wild fire

Fire ambers with the right conditions can easily travel well over a mile, how do you prepare for that scenario.

I have fought wild fires and have had one fire get away on me. I'll tell you one thing, I never felt so helpless in my life when that fire got away on me, even with fire guards in place.

Just saying!

Oh ya one other thing, a property can be fire proof, but how many are able to be smoke proof. How do you breathe when your property is completely taken over by wild fire smoke?