Emergency evaluations…

[Blaithin]

Magical 300% increase in wildfires over seasonal averages, sounds just like the kind of thing paid off antifa commie clowns would sign up for during an election. Eco terrorism.

Magical?

Did you miss the week of near 30 degree heat and 50km winds from the SE? Or is that average and happens every other year on the 3rd of May?

Was almost 7 years to the day since Ft Mac. Maybe that was antifa too since fires don’t actually happen during fire season unless there’s a political motive behind them.

[WiltonRanch]

Magical?

Did you miss the week of near 30 degree heat and 50km winds from the SE? Or is that average and happens every other year on the 3rd of May?

Was almost 7 years to the day since Ft Mac. Maybe that was antifa too since fires don’t actually happen during fire season unless there’s a political motive behind them.

I agree. It was the perfect storm but isn’t it ironic how the Rez’s in around play host to a shit ton of wildfires every spring. Carelessness and firebugs 100% of the time are to blame. Lots just don’t give a shit or get mad at someone and light er up to get even. It’s screwed up but it is what it is.

[Blaithin]

Yes, I agree human stupidity is the leading cause. Especially since until now there hasn’t really been thunderstorms to be lighting strikes, these are probably all human caused on some level.

People are ignorant to the world around them. They can’t look and see that nothing has greened up yet and the temperature is smoking hot, there’s no correlation in their mind that pissing around with a fire could result in thousands of acres burning. All they seem to think is “there was snow last month!”

This same ignorance to conditions is what gives rise to great conspiracy theories to explain something that many others seen coming for weeks.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Ditto for you Agstar… right back at you…

Your comments are if nothing else…predictable and consistent…

Blessings and Prayers Safe Seeding!

In the thread about covid restrictions, Chuck told me that we should all follow rules unquestionably. Because only government knows what is best for us.

[agstar77]

In the thread about covid restrictions, agstar told me that we should all follow rules unquestionably. Because only government knows what is best for us.

That is your interpretation. Rules should always backed up by solid evidence .

[jazz]

Blaithin from 1984 to 1988 there were 30+ degree days with a wind for 4 consecutive summers and I don’t recall hundreds of out of control fires from that time period.

Occam’s razor.

Watch for the climate change narrative and bad oil and gas to come in to the picture. Same old playbook. Fear and blame.

[Blaithin]

Blaithin from 1984 to 1988 there were 30+ degree days with a wind for 4 consecutive summers and I don’t recall hundreds of out of control fires from that time period.

Occam’s razor.

Watch for the climate change narrative and bad oil and gas to come in to the picture. Same old playbook. Fear and blame.

During summer?

Or during peak fire season?

It regularly gets 30 and windy here in summer. The difference is, in summer forage is typically green and has a moisture content vastly superior to all plant matter currently trying to come out of dormancy.

Are you being purposely obtuse or you really can’t see the difference between 30 degrees at the start of May and 30 degrees in July, and why one of them is considered peak fire season?

[foragefarmer]

Think you missed the fact the ranchers were maintaining fire breaks and wetting down areas to protect their herds. Leave them alone as that is their property and they can do what they want. You’re wired differently so I don’t think you get the point. When you are in an area where fire risk is a constant threat you are often prepared for the inevitable. It’s not some acreage owner with a garden hose refusing to leave as the fire is consuming their house. You talking out of your hat again.

Who would be making the decision at the critical time when the out of control wild fire is a 1/2 mile to a mile away which ranch, farmyard, acreage, or even a house in a town has an adequate fire proof defense system to ward off an out of control wild fire.

We all know there would be those who would argue they're just as fire proof as the farmer next door who didn't have to evacuate their property because someone at the moment deem them fire proof.

Unless there are pre arranged Provincial Fire Proof Codes for properties. who would know which property could survive an out of control wild fire

Fire ambers with the right conditions can easily travel well over a mile, how do you prepare for that scenario.

I have fought wild fires and have had one fire get away on me. I'll tell you one thing, I never felt so helpless in my life when that fire got away on me, even with fire guards in place.

Just saying!

Oh ya one other thing, a property can be fire proof, but how many are able to be smoke proof. How do you breathe when your property is completely taken over by wild fire smoke?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

That is your interpretation. Rules should always backed up by solid evidence .

I apologize. I see now that it was Chuck who was advocating for following arbitrary government laws regardless of how ineffective or damaging they may be. You came along later in the conversation.
I stand corrected, I will edit accordingly.

[blackpowder]

I see Tom has a long list of grievances from Canada is a shit hole club! LOL

So Tom you would rather let individuals with little training, experience, equipment and knowledge of the current risks of the fires fight it on their own?

How do you know that each and everyone of them is capable and not putting themselves and their families at risk?

How would have that worked in 2016 with Ft Mac Tom?

When you stay in potential disaster zone after being told to leave you not only put yourself at risk, you put emergency workers at risk when they have to come rescue you and your family, because you made the wrong decision.

I'm breaking in briefly then out.
Chuck does not know his arse from a hole in the ground. Nothing but a shtstain.
I'm not from Ft Mac but know people who are. There were oldtimers who stayed behind after evac to build berms and guards with their own equipment. At their OWN risk. Did not ask for help, and knew a heck of a lot more about what they were doing than some college boy. Yes they could have been killed. It's possible they potentially risked EMS.
What I have been told is that they saved property. Their own way. In the spirit that built the place. And that looters were caught but strangely enough, the police were never called......
We need a little more Yellowstone and a lot less BtchHills 90210. Get your liability waiver signed, pull up your skirt and f off. Now I'll do the same.

[jazz]

During summer?

Or during peak fire season?

It regularly gets 30 and windy here in summer. The difference is, in summer forage is typically green and has a moisture content vastly superior to all plant matter currently trying to come out of dormancy.

Are you being purposely obtuse or you really can’t see the difference between 30 degrees at the start of May and 30 degrees in July, and why one of them is considered peak fire season?

Guess you werent around in the mid 80s then. In 1988 we transitioned out of winter to 30 degree days in May with nothing growing. By June July is was 35 and the little crop we had was baled up a month earlier.

Are you arguing that this is climate change gods going after Alberta. 100 fires in Alberta, barely any in Sask and BC.

The arson reports, arrests, looting, suspicious activity etc says something else is going on. Along with the left trying to make it political against Smith. Just look at the nasty posts on twitter she is getting now. I will never believe this is all natural.

Smith will probably lose the election now. Hell I would have phoned Montana for help before I phoned Trudeau.

[Blaithin]

Guess you werent around in the mid 80s then. In 1988 we transitioned out of winter to 30 degree days in May with nothing growing. By June July is was 35 and the little crop we had was baled up a month earlier.

Are you arguing that this is climate change gods going after Alberta. 1000 fires in Alberta, barely any in Sask and BC.

The arson reports, arrests, looting, suspicious activity etc says something else is going on. Along with the left trying to make it political against Smith. Just look at the nasty posts on twitter she is getting now. I will never believe this is all natural.

I’ve said nothing about climate change.

I said it’s not a conspiracy set for election purposes, just a natural occurrence.

You want to think wildfires are unnatural go right ahead. You want to base it on the fact that you can’t recall out of control fires nearly 40 years ago, so be it. That’s sure credible evidence.

I believe they have a word for that actually. Anecdotal. Not considered the most reliable source of comparison.