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    #85
    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Ask your county councilors. Let us know what they say.

    This really isn't such a difficult decision is it? Out of control fire is threatening. We/you cant stop it from coming into your yard or town. And Jeez maybe we should evacuate those in danger if there is no hope of containing the fire?

    Are you going to call up your local reeve and councilor and discuss it for a couple of hours while the flames get closer?

    Good Luck!
    I’m asking you because you’re the one here saying it.

    Well let’s see… my landlord is my councillor. My house and yard is his property. He does have the ability to stop a fire from getting to my yard by creating a firebreak. I’m sure he would be doing the exact same for his yard.

    Any other questions? Or you want me to call him up while he’s seeding and see what he would do if we lived in a forest?

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      #86
      Here’s an example from last fall when it was hot and fires were popping up everywhere. They had all their equipment ready and easily accessible to go.

      Perhaps I should let them know that someone on the internet says they shouldn’t bother because they aren’t trained professionals. It’s best to wait for the (volunteer) department to get there.

      This photo is take from the end of my driveway, immediately across from my yard. They also brought the equipment across the road when they did my quarter. Just in case you’re going to say they wouldn’t bother with my yard.

      Last edited by Blaithin; May 12, 2023, 17:53.

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        #87
        If you can safely stop the fire from coming into your yard or town by all means go for it.

        Why wouldn't the County allow this?

        But aren't we talking about evacuations where the county has decided that evacuation is the prudent and safest thing to do? Otherwise why would they evacuate?

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          #88
          Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
          Here’s an example from last fall when it was hot and fires were popping up everywhere. They had all their equipment ready and easily accessible to go.

          Perhaps I should let them know that someone on the internet says they shouldn’t bother because they aren’t trained professionals. It’s best to wait for the (volunteer) department to get there.

          This photo is take from the end of my driveway, immediately across from my yard. They also brought the equipment across the road when they did my quarter. Just in case you’re going to say they wouldn’t bother with my yard.

          Fire prevention and having equipment in the field is a great idea on the farm. We do that ourselves. Field fires are not usually as risky as forest fires though.

          In a forest its not quite that simple when an out of control fire is raging your way. Aren't most of the evacuations in semi forested or forested parts of the counties?

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            #89
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            If you can safely stop the fire from coming into your yard or town by all means go for it.

            Why wouldn't the County allow this?

            But aren't we talking about evacuations where the county has decided that evacuation is the prudent and safest thing to do? Otherwise why would they evacuate?
            Are they not turning people away from coming in to help make fire breaks?

            Are you not saying people MUST be forced to leave and are not allowed to use their discretion to stay and try and protect their property.

            You’re saying as soon as a county decides the risk is too great, it now trumps each individuals ability to make decisions and they must leave the area and leave it up to professionals.

            I ask why.

            If individuals think a fire here is too great a risk and just run away, it’s almost guaranteed to become out of control. Individuals (private) are the first defence until the volunteer (public) professionals can get there. If they can get there. Not to mention the fire departments do not have the equipment to make fire breaks so we’d be waiting on that.

            Who are you Chuck, to tell people what’s too dangerous for them? Who are the councillors? The MLAs?

            I mean, first you say we can’t stop it from coming into my yard and now you’re saying if we can, go for it.

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              #90
              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
              Fire prevention and having equipment in the field is a great idea on the farm. We do that ourselves. Field fires are not usually as risky as forest fires though.

              In a forest its not quite that simple when an out of control fire is raging your way. Aren't most of the evacuations in semi forested or forested parts of the counties?
              You said ask my councillor. It’s not my fault you transposed me to living in a forest.

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                #91
                Ask your councilor and provincial authorities these questions.

                Why mandatory evacuations are necessary? Tell us what they say?

                Are they just making things upon the fly or do they have good reasons?

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                  #92
                  I don’t need to ask them, I know what they’ll say.

                  Do you think mandatory evacuations mean everyone has left these areas? That’s not generally the case. I know of a number of people who stayed to protect their farms as well as their neighbours, despite being in mandatory evacuation zones.

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                    #93
                    Fire SE of Coronation last week took out 3600 acres in a handful of hours. Neighbours were evacuating hundreds of head of cattle by riding into the fires path and pushing them out of the way while others arrived with equipment to try and get it under control.

                    Guess they should have just sat back and watched, or left the county, but this is Alberta and the legacy of our grandparents generation is to help our neighbours.
                    Last edited by Blaithin; May 12, 2023, 19:10.

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                      #94
                      BTW CC:

                      Emergency workers die too….

                      Greater Love does not exist…. Than to give one’s life…. For the neighbors who need help… friend or ….not… these sacrifices given…are the backbone of the our free world . Turning our nation into cowards… is not a civilization worthy of survival. Fear is a horrible disease… that tyranny feeds upon!

                      Prayers and blessings.

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                        #95
                        Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
                        Fire SE of Coronation last week took out 3600 acres in a handful of hours. Neighbours were evacuating hundreds of head of cattle by riding into the fires path and pushing them out of the way while others arrived with equipment to try and get it under control.

                        Guess they should have just sat back and watched, or left the county, but this is Alberta and the legacy of our grandparents generation is to help our neighbours.
                        Can you imagine what a pleasure it must be to have Chuck as a neighbor, with this attitude?
                        One of the many side benefits of associating with him here, is it sure makes me grateful for the excellent neighbors we do have.

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                          #96
                          If someone doesn’t want to put themselves at risk to help, that’s fine by me. I can’t blame them for wanting to avoid danger.

                          Just don’t try and tell us that nobody should put themselves at risk because they won’t put themselves in that situation.

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