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    #11
    C C…. In case you missed the bulletin that has built over the last 500 years…prosperity for our western civilization:




    Hope these simple principles…. That are at the foundation of western civilization…. Can be our civilization’s guide to prosperity and peace….

    Blessings and Prayers

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      #12
      Where did all the climate change deniers go?

      When the leader of the CPC says human caused climate change is real and he is going to do something about it you can't run away.

      Or are you going to keep saying its all all a hoax and a socialist plot and the all the scientists are wrong! Better tell Pierre.

      It must be time to complain about my tone, call me a troll again and question my character! LOL Who's up first?

      “Yes, it is real,” Poilievre said in response, and on Thursday, he told reporters that his party’s climate plan — which will likely be part of the Conservative platform in the next general election campaign — will aim to reduce those emissions.
      Last edited by chuckChuck; Jun 10, 2023, 07:37.

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        #13
        Climate change is real, but is it man-caused or carbon-caused, another question. Is it a natural phenomenon , a function of sun, moon, currents………?

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          #14
          Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
          Climate change is real, but is it man-caused or carbon-caused, another question. Is it a natural phenomenon , a function of sun, moon, currents………?
          No doubt climate change is a natural factor but how much is human activity speeding it up? If we didn't have fossil fuels and live in a throw away world how many years behind in climate change would we be?

          I remember when the Columbia ice fields were right out to the highway, you could step out of your car and walk on glacier. Now you have to drive to a parking up the mountain to catch a bus to take you to them. My sister visited the Arctic she couldn't believe how the polar cap has melted.

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            #15
            Originally posted by wmoebis View Post
            No doubt climate change is a natural factor but how much is human activity speeding it up? If we didn't have fossil fuels and live in a throw away world how many years behind in climate change would we be?

            I remember when the Columbia ice fields were right out to the highway, you could step out of your car and walk on glacier. Now you have to drive to a parking up the mountain to catch a bus to take you to them. My sister visited the Arctic she couldn't believe how the polar cap has melted.
            What is the correct extent of the Columbia ice fields?

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              #16
              Just stay away from the kids chuck. Go find some adult marxists to preach to. Kids are off limits.

              And any LGBT alphabet group thats tries to get in the middle of that is going to get a good reality check.

              Originally posted by wmoebis View Post
              I remember when the Columbia ice fields were right out to the highway, you could step out of your car and walk on glacier. Now you have to drive to a parking up the mountain to catch a bus to take you to them. My sister visited the Arctic she couldn't believe how the polar cap has melted.
              The canadian ice sheet was at one time somewhere in southern Illinois and 2miles thick. Whats the correct amount and thickness and location of ice to have on this planet. There was once a subcontinent between Australia and Asia that you could walk across. Now submerged thousands of yrs before man came on the scene. Theres a theory that once the entire planet was covered with ice called Snowball Earth. There was a period where it rained for 2 million yrs. Theres another period where volcanoes erupted all over the earth for several million yrs.

              Science has no answer to any of this. They have recency bias big time.
              Last edited by jazz; Jun 10, 2023, 17:10.

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                #17
                I've been reading the local history book recently. Community about 10 miles north of here. First settlers came in 1906. But they could only grow greenfeed due to Summer frosts. Was 1916 before they had the first successful grain crop that didn't freeze during the summer.

                Fast forward a few decades, and the
                Stories from my grandpa and his generation say that they were successfully growing wheat and flax out here in the 40s and 30s at the peak of that warming cycle.

                Then it cooled off again, and by the late seventies at the bottom of the cooling cycle, they were struggling to even grow barley and oats. Most had given up and gone back to Green feed and hay.

                I am fortunate enough to be enjoying the peak of this warming cycle, we are back to growing wheat and canola.

                My business plans definitely take into account the fact that this benign weather Is an anomaly, as we head back into another 40-year cooling cycle.
                Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Jun 10, 2023, 18:38.

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                  #18
                  Climate modification from human activity is obvious… as trees are removed, roads are built, towns and cities create heat sinks… how environmental systems interact with these modifications…. Has very little to do with C02… while changing landscape and vegetation coverage… managed intentionally or by “accident “ logically have far reaching impacts .

                  Extrapolation of environmental change… existential catastrophic warming….with agricultural land and cities being less than 10% of Canadian lands…. Is a rounding error… just like Canadian C02 production being 2-3%…. Wildfires create a much more important impact… both historically and presently.

                  Blessings and Prayers

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                    #19
                    While they have us squabbling about whether climate change is real and if there are more than two genders, they have 10 moves ahead planned. Impoverishing the many, central bank digital currency, ubi, social credit, 15 minute cites, bio digital transhumanism, 5g internet of things, seizing all land, eliminating all property rights/human rights, relocate all rural folks, and depop. Silly sheeple this was all planned decades ago.

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                      #20
                      The denial is in full force with some people.

                      Of course there is climate change from non human sources.

                      AB5 says "as we head back into another 40-year cooling cycle"Huh?

                      Where is the credible scientific evidence for a 40 year cooling cycle?

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