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    #21
    All the indicators show that global warming is still happening.

    Climate Myth...It's cooling

    "In fact global warming has stopped and a cooling is beginning. No climate model has predicted a cooling of the Earth – quite the contrary. And this means that the projections of future climate are unreliable." (source: Henrik Svensmark)


    At a glance

    Earth's surface, oceans and atmosphere are all warming due to our greenhouse gas emissions, but at different rates. Some places are also warming much faster than others: parts of the Arctic for example. That variability is partly because other phenomena act to offset or enhance warming at times. A good example are the effects of La Nina and El Nino, an irregular variation in winds and sea surface temperatures over the tropical eastern Pacific Ocean that can influence temperatures and rainfall patterns right around the world.

    El Nino causes even warmer years whereas La Nina tends to peg temperatures back to an extent. Thus 2016 – an El Nino year - was the warmest year on record, according to the USA-based National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, but other recent years have not been far behind – 2020 and 2019 are in second and third place respectively. The worrying thing is that 2019 only saw a mild El Nino and 2020 was “neutral” - there were neither El Nino or La Nina conditions. And even with a La Nina featuring, 2021 and 2022 were, respectively, still the seventh and sixth hottest years on record.

    The year 1998 featured a massive El Nino and consequent temperature spike that was a strong outlier, well above the steady upward trend. That spike and the subsequent return to a more “normal” warming pattern led to claims in the popular media that global warming had “paused” or had even stopped. This was a typical misinformation tactic that, as usual, time has proved wrong. As things currently stand, the top ten warmest years have all been since 2010 and 1998 is nowhere to be seen any more. By modern standards, it simply wasn't warm enough.

    Please use this form to provide feedback about this new "At a glance" section. Read a more technical version below or dig deeper via the tabs above!
    Further details

    In the years following 1998, at the time the hottest year on record, there was a concerted misinformation campaign to convince the public that global warming had variously slowed down, stopped or even that we were entering a period of cooling. Of course, we now know that such claims were nowhere near correct. In today's top ten ranking of warmest years, the year 1998 is nowhere to be seen. It simply wasn't warm enough. So let's take a look at how the claims came about, because they reveal insights into the methodology of those who design and spread misinformation.

    The entire planet continues to accumulate heat due to the energy imbalance created through our greenhouse gas emissions. Earth's atmosphere is warming. Oceans are accumulating energy. Land absorbs energy and ice absorbs heat to melt. Year to year ups and downs in these things are simply noise, reflecting variations in how that heat is moved around the planet and what other influences are at work, such as the irregular El Nino Southern Oscillation (ENSO) that can nudge the global temperature one way or another by up to 0.3C. That's why 1998 was such a warm outlier: it coincided with a very strong El Nino. El Nino conditions always warm things up whereas La Nina conditions cool things down (figure 1).

    https://skepticalscience.com/global-cooling-basic.htm

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      #22
      No climate model has predicted a cooling
      Well then, it sounds like the science is settled then. If the models say it is so, how can I argue with that. I sincerely hope you and the models are correct, and our current profitable business model will continue to be viable for the rest of my career.
      Thank you for the reassurance.

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        #23
        So you don't have any credible evidence that the earth is cooling?

        What a surprise you came up empty handed again!

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          #24
          Omg we only have 10 days to live.
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            #25
            TBF that doesn’t say we’ll be dead in five years, it was just a five year timeline to stop using fossil fuels.

            So now I guess we’re destined to die so why change!

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              #26
              For a man of science chuck sure has a gap in his thinking.

              There is no evidence the earth is warming either outside of normal fluctuations well within the margin of error of a chaotic system. 30yrs of failed climate predictions proves that. Remember the snow free future our kids will inherit plus Statue of Liberty under water.

              Maybe the covid modelers and the climate modelers are all in the same room somewhere turning their knobs.

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                #27
                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                So you don't have any credible evidence that the earth is cooling?

                What a surprise you came up empty handed again!
                CC: unless you can predict the future…. Global warming is a possibility…. Just like Global cooling.

                CC… can you predict the future sun activity?

                CC… can you predict the future geological activity of planet earth… volcanoes, earth quakes, magnetic shifts of both the earth and sun…

                CC… can you predict future wildfires… droughts, flooding… La Niña …El Niño strengths and durations…

                Chinese and Russian war activities… Sudanese, Iranian , Syrian…

                When we successfully straighten out : Russia/Ukraine, Sudanese, Iranian, Syrian, wars…

                Agree on: Peace in Israel and the Middle East nations…. Nuclear disarming… the existential threats to the end of humanity… are magnitudes greater… from : nuclear Armageddon, War, Pandemic, Fire, Pestilence, economic collapse….

                If humanity says it’s Evil Demons rule the future of the earth… by the simple day by day actions we live… Global warming or cooling are the least of our existential Armageddon prophecies… FIRE is the most likely end to human civilization…

                For humanity that has accepted and believed in eternal Spiritual life … there is no fear…

                … new wonderful spiritual bodies await… just like the planting a kernel of wheat… it must be buried…die… be nourished… be born into our Creator’s designed life… and enter into a wonderful new life in a wonderful new existence and body…

                Blessings and Prayers

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                  So you don't have any credible evidence that the earth is cooling?

                  What a surprise you came up empty handed again!
                  Yes, you are probably right. The cycles which have existed since time immemorial have all ceased to exist, usurped by human caused climate change. All one direction from here.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
                    TBF that doesn’t say we’ll be dead in five years, it was just a five year timeline to stop using fossil fuels.

                    So now I guess we’re destined to die so why change!
                    I see this twisting of words used all the time. It doesn't help the cause whatsoever.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                      Yes, you are probably right. The cycles which have existed since time immemorial have all ceased to exist, usurped by human caused climate change. All one direction from here.
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                      Our leaders can control all that now.

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