Vaccines

[chuckChuck]

So do I understand you correctly, you don't consider yourself qualified to assess the risk. You defer to the opinion of experts.
So if every second person died from the vaccination, but the provincial chief medical officers still recommend getting vaccinated, you would get vaccinated, and you would take your children or grandchildren to get vaccinated as well. Because the experts told you to, and you as an unqualified layman or not capable of evaluating the information yourself.

That absurd and ridiculous unrealistic scenario is just about as stupid as your idea that we are going to run low on CO2! LOL

Now are the chief medical health officers wrong about covid vaccines and their safety? Yes or No?

[cropgrower]

Your choice, but the health professional including all the provincial chief medical officers in Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta are all still recommending covid vaccinations!

Are they all wrong about the benefits vs risk? LOL

And you are more qualified to know?

yes its my choice , and why did you and many more from the top leaders down in this country feel the need to call us names and at times even wish us dead for our choice ? again what is the number of serious adverse events per 10,000 that you would say is OK for the greater good ?

[TSIPP]

So nobody can understand the stats except the experts, trust the experts, now that’s a real laugh!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

That absurd and ridiculous unrealistic scenario is just about as stupid as your idea that we are going to run low on CO2! LOL

Now are the chief medical health officers wrong about covid vaccines and their safety? Yes or No?

I remember back in my naive days towards the beginning of COVID where I also mocked the absurd ridiculous and unrealistic scenario that the vaccines would do any harm to anyone. At the rate the vaccinated are dropping in my circles, that one in two ratio may not look that ridiculous or absurd or unrealistic in a few more years.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

That absurd and ridiculous unrealistic scenario is just about as stupid as your idea that we are going to run low on CO2! LOL

I'm not sure why you insist on revisiting the CO2 issue over and over again? Haven't you stepped on this garden rake enough times already?
I generally ignore when you bring this up, we have rehashed this enough times to know that you haven't got The slightest idea of how long CO2 would remain in the atmosphere, and therefore not the slightest clue how long before levels would be low enough to be a problem again.
But it is hilarious that you bring it up in this context.
As we have established, you don't have any idea how many adverse events would be acceptable from a COVID vaccine. But we have narrowed it down to one in two being too high, and one in 10,000 being acceptable. Anything within that range, you would defer to the experts and take it if they tell you to.
The sounds vaguely familiar to the CO2 residence time debates. Where after weeks of proding on my part, and exhaustive "research" on your part, you established that The residence time is somewhere between a few months and millions of years. And according to you, the fact that neither you nor your credible scientists can narrow that down, is irrelevant to the revolution to eliminate CO2. Just like your attitude to vaccine injury or death.
Your positions are obviously not science-based, but ideologically based. But don't let that stop you from telling everyone else to " believe in the science".

Or have you since figured out the residence time of CO2, and you bring it up at every opportunity hoping someone will give you the chance to share this newfound knowledge?

[jazz]

I knew chuck was deficient in basic math and economics but simple statistics really threw him for a loop.

Read the study again chuck, a group of scientists created a statistical sampling of the rates of serious adverse effects from the vaccine which are 10 times more frequent than 3 other vaccines that got pulled from the market.

Its about as clear as day for anyone with a brain. Extrapolate that over 7B doses given in the world and the result is a crime against humanity from your renowned experts.

Chuck crowed like a fool about a single grandma dying in the home and called for the unvaxxed to be rounded up in camps and denied basic services. Now he deflects and hides when the studies are showing the vax killed or maimed more people than died from covid.

On 99M doses given in Canada, there are literally several hundred thousand vax injuries in Canada alone.

[agstar77]

I remember back in my naive days towards the beginning of COVID where I also mocked the absurd ridiculous and unrealistic scenario that the vaccines would do any harm to anyone. At the rate the vaccinated are dropping in my circles, that one in two ratio may not look that ridiculous or absurd or unrealistic in a few more years.

So now you are an expert medical examiner. Strange how my vaccinated friends are fine. You must move in a sickly circle.

[rumrocks]

What are the chances there are countries in the world where double blind trials with a very large sample size were performed by the manufacturers of the Covid vaccine.
Those results will never be made public as it would bring criminal charges to the CEO's, or not.
The trial would be a lawyers dream, some arguing they saved lives by giving the vaccine, some arguing they saved lives by giving a placebo and not the lethal vaccine, some arguing they risked injuring by giving the vaccine, some arguing they actually killed people by giving the vaccine who died of blood clots, and some arguing they killed people by giving a placebo who then went on to die of covid.
Score at the end of the game:
Lawyers 26
Taxpayers -304

Carry on.

[blueversi]

I let the experts on vaccinations decide that.

Many of you thought Ivermectin was the cure for covid!

And now you are telling us about the heightened risk of vaccinations even after real life numbers are very low? LOL

Here you can wade through the Brighton Collaboration on vaccine safety data collection as referenced in the paper when you have spare time!

https://brightoncollaboration.us/covid-19/

That makes sense just like you needed the experts at the CWB to market your grain because you can’t think for yourself.

[chuckChuck]

So I see nobody has the guts to answer! LOL

Are the chief medical health officers wrong about covid vaccines and their safety? Yes or No?

The answer is no!

But don't let that stop you from dragging up lame antivaxer arguments again and again.

Don't get vaccinated if that is what you want.

But don't spread antivaxer misinformation and lies about vaccines.

[chuckChuck]

From the Saskatchewan Government:

https://pubsaskdev.blob.core.windows.net/pubsask-prod/126523/COVID%252BVaccine%252BSafety%252BFact%252BSheet.pd f

Covid-19 Vaccine Safety

Vaccines save lives
• Vaccines are one of the best ways to stop the spread of infectious diseases like COVID-19.
• Vaccines help us protect ourselves, our families, and others around us.
• COVID-19 vaccine can help us make our communities safer, start to resume our normal lives and
end the pandemic.COVID-19 Vaccine Safety
Vaccine Safety
More Information
• Saskatchewan’s COVID-19 pandemic response:
https://www.saskatchewan.ca/COVID19
• Canada’s vaccination process: https://
www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/
diseases/2019-novel-coronavirus-infection/
awareness-resources/know-vaccine.html
• Information in English, French, Cree, Dene, Michif
and other languages can be found at Canada.ca.
• If someone receives vaccine and then tests
positive, they were likely exposed in the previous
14 days and were in the incubation period. COVID
vaccines are not live vaccines and cannot cause
the disease. The person’s next dose would be
delayed until they recover.
• Vaccination is voluntary, but is important
to help keep individuals, loved ones and
communities safer from COVID-19. Our most
vulnerable people can be protected by “herd
immunity”, which is when widespread immunity
to an infectious disease develops in a population.
• Even after COVID-19 vaccination, we all need to
continue masking, hand-washing and physical
distancing. Public Health Orders and safety
measures must still be followed. Building up
immunity takes time.
• COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective. They
have been fully tested, evaluated and reviewed. A
vaccine is only approved by Health Canada
if it is safe, it works, it meets manufacturing
standards, and the benefits outweigh any risks.
• You cannot get COVID-19 from the vaccine. It
does not contain the actual virus.
• People who are vaccinated may experience
mild to moderate side effects. They are minimal
for most people (localized pain, redness or
swelling at the injection site, mild fever or
headache) and should go away in a few days.
• Worldwide, tens of millions of people have
already received COVID-19 vaccine. Adverse
reactions are tracked, monitored and reported to
the Ministry of Health.
• In Canada, adverse effects following
immunization with COVID-19 vaccine are
available at:
https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/
vaccine-safety/
• Vaccination is recommended even if you’ve had
COVID-19 to maintain protection. Immunization
with a COVID-19 vaccine should be given at least
three months post-infection

[cropgrower]

and you dont have the guts to say how many serious adverse events you think is OK , clearly dont care about some strangers life being destroyed or worse