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Originally posted by cropgrower View Posti get sent lots of stuff from friends back in ireland , but wont post on here , you believe whatever you want , and the argument about health care is pure garbage , media just trying to whitewash it over , younger folk dropping in prime of life has notting to do with health care , tell us why thats happening at numbers never seen before , climate change ?
Anecdotal evidence that people are dropping dead after being vaccinated when you don't know their medical history or cause of death is just biased speculation.
Anyway, you contradicted yourself when you posted the Guardian article that clearly said there are multiple causes of excess death and a lot are the result of the failings of the NHS in the UK.
The article i posted from the CDC was very strong evidence that vaccines are not causing any significant number of deaths and in fact said the very opposite.
Put up or shut up!
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i have been talking about the fact that governments in UK and ireland will not do an inquiry , looks like finaly something happen in UK on the 20 th of this month , we will see how that goes , in ireland every effort to get an inquiry going has been blocked , what does that do for peoples trust ?
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Originally posted by cropgrower View Posti have been talking about the fact that governments in UK and ireland will not do an inquiry , looks like finaly something happen in UK on the 20 th of this month , we will see how that goes , in ireland every effort to get an inquiry going has been blocked , what does that do for peoples trust ?
But that has nothing to do with covid vaccines!
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Originally posted by cropgrower View Post[ATTACH]13336[/ATTACH] pay very close attention to the excess death timeline where the jab was rolled out , and explain why that happened , looks like thats when health care got realy bad and has been getting worse ever since 🤣
Again you can't draw conclusions from a single chart. Especially if you don't have all the information or training to analyse the data.
You're making assumptions about the cause of excess death being associated with being vaccinated. There is no evidence that draws this conclusion.
The research that I posted tracked individuals both vaccinated and unvaccinated. And measures outcomes.
Conclusion there is no evidence that covid vaccines are causing any significant number deaths or excess deaths.
In their words: no increased risk was found for non-COVID-19 mortality among recipients of three COVID-19 vaccines used in the US.
So you might as well give up! LOLLast edited by chuckChuck; Oct 11, 2023, 16:02.
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dont need to be any kind of expert to to see huge jump in blue line at first roll out , then flat for a while until booster roll out , and the line is still sadly going uphill , draw whatever conlusion you want , i guess healthcare keeps getting worse!! CC why do you think healthcare gets worse during times that lots of jabs are going in arms 🤔🤔Last edited by cropgrower; Oct 11, 2023, 13:29.
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Your chart proves nothing!
"no increased risk was found for non-COVID-19 mortality among recipients of three COVID-19 vaccines used in the US."
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And the scientists that published the study that completely contradicts your argument, are brain washed too? Along with all the Chief Medical Officers in all the Conservative provincial governments across Canada? LOL
Crop you really got a step up your game there! Your arguments are lame and you have no evidence!
Your speculative opinions don't matter. Evidence matters.
Give Up you lost!
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"no increased risk was found for non-COVID-19 mortality among recipients of three COVID-19 vaccines used in the US."
Suck it up.
If your only argument is, it is all lies, a cover up and a conspiracy and you have no evidence or research to back up your opinion you have lost. Give up!
Your extremist antivaxer views don't matter or register because every province in the country is still recommending covid vaccination.
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Vaccine uptake has gone down because the risk and perception of risk has gone down because the latest versions of the virus seem less severe.
Except if you are elderly or have weakened immune system.
Annual Flu vaccinations rates go up and down depending on how severe the flu season is or is predicted to be.
Its not because a small percentage of antivaxers wrongly think the vaccines causes death! LOLLast edited by chuckChuck; Oct 13, 2023, 08:00.
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