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    #31
    Originally posted by TOM4CWB View Post
    Amazing… when ships and aircraft, people in sailboats, etc etc… go around the globe 24/7 … routes of shipping globally…. All rationally reasonable proof of this planet being a globe.

    So is this a debating club now… instead of discussing common sense and truth?

    Blessings and Prayers
    Wow ,I actually agree.

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      #32
      Originally posted by TOM4CWB View Post
      Amazing… when ships and aircraft, people in sailboats, etc etc… go around the globe 24/7 … routes of shipping globally…. All rationally reasonable proof of this planet being a globe.

      So is this a debating club now… instead of discussing common sense and truth?

      Blessings and Prayers
      I'll try in address all the questions going back best I can, been boating on the perfectly level 60 mile long Last Mountain Lake all weekend. 60miles squared is 3600 times 8inches, (3600 X 0.666) = 2397ft of supposed curvature should exist on this lake if we were on a globe earth.

      Sry Tom you are incorrect every flight computer and ships navigation computer uses the flat earth map for route planning. Its even the logo of the International Civil Aviation Organization and the International Maritime Organization.
      Easily confirmed by yourself by checking long distance flight paths in the meantime watch this video. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZM2xrAvPN/

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        #33
        Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
        Never been to the ocean?

        Coincidentally ships travelling on the ocean first inspired the globe theory. Much like the sun, they sink out of site instead of just becoming smaller and smaller until they can’t be seen anymore. First the hull disappears, then the decks, finally the masts and sails. How is this explained if the world is flat and the ship should leave sight at the same rate, not bottom to top.
        Been to the ocean many times, its due to perspective. Often using an optic ships can be brought back into view, military ships can visibly target other ships upto 80 miles for example. In 80 miles there should exist 4262ft of curvature. However if the water is rough no amount of optic will bring the vessel back into view. As objects shrink in size in the distance due to perspective even a small nearby wave can block the vessels view. The rough water will make it appear as if the vessel is sinking over the horizon from the bottom up.

        This short video articulates my point well.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
          And what about the fact you can leave a location and travel in a straight line in any direction and you’ll always end up back where you started. Yeah some paths aren’t going to be easy to do, but they all have the same result in globe theory and also all be very similar distance give or take hiking up some elevations.

          If you travelled in a straight line in flat theory you’re always going to hit the edge, but at different distances. To get back to where you started you would need to travel in a circle and it can only be done in two directions to be similar distances. Otherwise you’re just going out and doing a loop and turning around and coming back which proves nothing.
          I'm glad you brought up circumnavigation. Its impossible to circumnavigate from North to South, hence why no flights happen over Antarctica and there are 1000's of flights a day over the Arctic. Also why flights originating and terminating in the Southern hemisphere often have layovers in far northern hemisphere cities. For example, pick a flight from Buenos Aires to Perth Australia the two of the most southern major cities on a globe, the shortest flight will lay over in the USA like Texas the proceed to fly over the arctic. This fellow does a good job explaining circumnavigation on the flat earth in this short video. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZM2xhFeah/
          Last edited by biglentil; Jul 9, 2023, 08:05.

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            #35
            Why are logos and photos demonstrating flat earth accurate and indisputable while photos and logos demonstrating globe theory are fake, photo shopped, manipulated, CGId, illusion of perspective etc.?

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              #36
              FYI all the TikTok’s are not doing a good job explaining anything. They’re TikTok’s. I could decide to make one explaining why my Komondor is actually a mini Poodle and by talking through my ass just a very little many people would believe me. However many people believing it wouldn't make her a poodle.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
                And if water always wants to be level, how do you explain tides.
                There are many theories that make much more sense than the Newtonian heliocentric version. Water is diamagnetic and more so when it has a high salt content and therefore a high electrical conductivity. The moon being an electrical phenomon exerts a magnetic force that influences and exerts force on water and therefore we have tides. Once again an easy to perform experiment you can do yourself by floating a shot glass of salt water on a piece of Styrofoam and by using a magnet.



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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
                  FYI all the TikTok’s are not doing a good job explaining anything. They’re TikTok’s. I could decide to make one explaining why my Komondor is actually a mini Poodle and by talking through my ass just a very little many people would believe me. However many people believing it wouldn't make her a poodle.
                  I would use youtube but most of the FE information on youtube has been blocked. Trudeau has stated that he wants to censor all flat earth information. Remember only lies like the heliocentric model need the protection of censorship, truth stands on its own merit. Censorship is an act of desperation to prevent the truth from being revealed
                  Last edited by biglentil; Jul 9, 2023, 10:15.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
                    Why are logos and photos demonstrating flat earth accurate and indisputable while photos and logos demonstrating globe theory are fake, photo shopped, manipulated, CGId, illusion of perspective etc.?
                    Don't take it from me but take it directly from the fakery bakery itself, Nasa. Read the paragraph I highlighted.

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                      #40
                      You interpret things differently than I do.

                      All comes down to perspective, your’s is strange.

                      Tossing in uncommon words doesn’t make you correct. I know how to beat someone towards a point by attempting to use words they aren’t familiar with. It’s a method that doesn’t prove anything.

                      You’re not much different than Chuck in the gaslighting department are you 😂

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                        #41
                        No point BL, when they start using words like, “gaslighting” there’s no hope.

                        Who cares? Don’t bother. I am interested in how scientists come up with major theories and how we adopt them as fact but not everyone else is interested. Most of the information on internet is fabricated, just as scientific data is manipulated, imagined and fed to the minions, who choose to believe it or not.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
                          No point BL, when they start using words like, “gaslighting” there’s no hope.

                          Who cares? Don’t bother. I am interested in how scientists come up with major theories and how we adopt them as fact but not everyone else is interested. Most of the information on internet is fabricated, just as scientific data is manipulated, imagined and fed to the minions, who choose to believe it or not.
                          Oh dear, now I’m “they”. Just like I can troll with the best, I can gaslight as well. If someone does it, they should be prepared to be called out on it.

                          I am interested, that’s why I’m asking the questions. Nothing so far supplied covers enough bases to replace current theories.

                          Again, if information is fabricated and manipulated it’s equally possible to do it to all theories. You can’t say only one is manipulated while the one believed in isn’t manipulated as proof of truth.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
                            FYI all the TikTok’s are not doing a good job explaining anything. They’re TikTok’s. I could decide to make one explaining why my Komondor is actually a mini Poodle and by talking through my ass just a very little many people would believe me. However many people believing it wouldn't make her a poodle.
                            That is what I believe should be the takeaway from this topic. And I said so during the previous thread. This topic just shows how easy it is to make a convincing argument with flashy graphics and maps and graphs and sciency sounding concepts to convince people of almost anything. That's how we got the covid scare in the global warming scare and the vaccine scare, different sides of the same coin.
                            If the true believers of any of these theories don't think they are falling for the exact same tactics, they are deceiving themselves.

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                              #44
                              I appreciate the debate. Maybe Blaithin, like all others that try including myself, is having a hard time proving we are on a spinning globe? This explains why he has resorted to attacking the medium Tiktok and my character instead of addressing the information I have provided.

                              Decades of brainwashing and programming from a very young age is not easily unwound. Blaithin admitting that the globe model is a theory is a good sign that he is also on the path to becoming a flat earther. This fellow started off his livestream with thousands of followers with the expectation of proving the globe model and discrediting flat earth, he was not expecting just the opposite to happen. A compilation of his journey highlights the thoughts and feelings most flat earthers go through after researching this subject. Caution plenty of swearing https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZM2xBgDQX/

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                                #45
                                Gaslighting :

                                Is the “subjective” experience” in which an individual’s perception of reality is repeatedly undermined or questioned. How does that fit into this topic?

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