Rechargeable Batteries

[AlbertaFarmer5]

So there is no fire risk in gasoline and diesel vehicles? 100 litres of gasoline ignites in a crash or an electrical fire never happens in ICE vehicles? .

Have you ever seen gasoline or diesel spontaneously combust with no ignition source?
Electric vehicle batteries have the distinction of having the unique ability to spontaneously combust. The ignition source and the fuel are all self-contained in one tidy package.

And another battery fire, this time at a solar farm
,https://www.cbsnews.com/news/solar-f...ferson-county/

[WiltonRanch]

How many garages and shops have burned from power tool battery chargers? My neighbour had it happen.

[chuckChuck]

Welding, grinding and charging conventional equipment batteries cause far more shop fires.

I can think of numerous examples in my own area and I have yet to hear of one caused by tool batteries. But I am sure that can happen.

So put your rechargeable battery charging sites in an area of the shop that will prevent the spread to the rest of the shop.

And buy a smart charger for indoor charging of equipment and vehicles. Noco makes some good ones. An ounce of prevention....

[TOM4CWB]

Welding, grinding and charging conventional equipment batteries cause far more shop fires.

I can think of numerous examples in my own area and I have yet to hear of one caused by tool batteries. But I am sure that can happen.

So put your rechargeable battery charging sites in an area of the shop that will prevent the spread to the rest of the shop.

And buy a smart charger for indoor charging of equipment and vehicles. Noco makes some good ones. An ounce of prevention....

Balance… practical common sense… is definitely missing…

Edmonton’s electric buses are a sad bad joke.

They send them out in the morning… at 6am… by 9am they are out of power… in the summer. In the winter… by 7:30-8am they are exhausted.

They can’t afford to change the bus batteries during the day… so the batteries are charged the next night when the electrical rates drop down to reasonable cost after 10pm.

And of course… ETS… must have another set of diesel busses… to replace the discharged EV busses After 2-3 hours of service each day.

What a frightening misuse of taxpayers resources…. Besides all the total mis-allocations of precious metals, energy, and virtually doubling the energy consumption to do the same job.

Until low cost nuclear electrical generation is feasible… cold climate transportation is most efficiently provided with carbon based transportation fuels.

Had we set up solar panels… the hail storm damage would have destroyed them… then what Chuck???!!!

These C02 fetishizes are suicidal and unbelievably beyond any sense of common decency…. Simply evil and deception.

Blessings and Prayers

[WiltonRanch]

Welding, grinding and charging conventional equipment batteries cause far more shop fires.

I can think of numerous examples in my own area and I have yet to hear of one caused by tool batteries. But I am sure that can happen.

So put your rechargeable battery charging sites in an area of the shop that will prevent the spread to the rest of the shop.

And buy a smart charger for indoor charging of equipment and vehicles. Noco makes some good ones. An ounce of prevention....

Bullshit! Deny all you want but I personally know someone whose shop burned down from a rechargeable battery. The insurance adjuster said so. So you’re smarter than sgi now? What a dough head.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Edmonton’s electric buses are a sad bad joke.

They send them out in the morning… at 6am… by 9am they are out of power… in the summer. In the winter… by 7:30-8am they are exhausted.

They can’t afford to change the bus batteries during the day… so the batteries are charged the next night when the electrical rates drop down to reasonable cost after 10pm.

And of course… ETS… must have another set of diesel busses… to replace the discharged EV busses After 2-3 hours of service each day.

What a frightening misuse of taxpayers resources…. Besides all the total mis-allocations of precious metals, energy, and virtually doubling the energy consumption to do the same job.

There needs to be a way to hold politicians accountable for the boondoggles they create
They are clearly not qualified to make decisions about anything economic or technical, so they inevitably tend to make the worst possible decisions, most likely the decisions which put the most money into their or their friends and donors pockets. The taxpayers pay for it, but the taxpayers have no recourse. And even if the politicians get voted out, there are no financial disincentives for the massive waste of taxpayer dollars on schemes such as this.
It isn't a surprise that the electric buses don't work in edmonton. This was predicted, they were warned.
And they did it anyways.
Meanwhile, the useful idiots such as those on here, will keep lecturing the people in the know that we need to leave the science to the experts, because a consensus of politicians all agreed that electric buses are the best solution to a climate crisis which only exists in their overactive imaginations. No amount of real world results and evidence could ever change their minds.

[furrowtickler]

There needs to be a way to hold politicians accountable for the boondoggles they create
They are clearly not qualified to make decisions about anything economic or technical, sweetie tend to make the worst possible decisions, most likely the decisions which put the most money into their or their friends and donors pockets. The taxpayers pay for it, but the taxpayers have no recourse. And even if the politicians get voted out, there are no financial disincentives for the massive waste of taxpayer dollars on schemes such as this.
It isn't a surprise that the electric buses don't work in edmonton. This was predicted, they were warned.
And they did it anyways.
Meanwhile, the useful idiots such as those on here, will keep lecturing the people in the know that we need to leave the science to the experts, because a consensus of politicians all agreed that electric buses are the best solution to a climate crisis which only exists in their overactive imaginations. No amount of real world results and evidence could ever change their minds.

Well said AB5

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Welding, grinding and charging conventional equipment batteries cause far more shop fires.

I can think of numerous examples in my own area and I have yet to hear of one caused by tool batteries. But I am sure that can happen.

So put your rechargeable battery charging sites in an area of the shop that will prevent the spread to the rest of the shop.

And buy a smart charger for indoor charging of equipment and vehicles. Noco makes some good ones. An ounce of prevention....

A prime example of whataboutism.
Just because rechargeable batteries keep catching fire and destroying ships and shops and solar farms and parking garages and homes and are too dangerous to be carried as cargo according to some carriers...
But what about shops catching fire from welding...
Because that makes all of the rechargeable/ EV battery fires acceptable.
This is just like the argument the left keeps bringing up to justify letting pedophiles entertain children. What about Catholic priests...

[TOM4CWB]

When Ammonia produced by electrolysis becomes available ….Farm and transportation Diesel engines can easily be fueled using Ammonia. Using batteries for tractors and combines… for their principal energy source…. In this climate…. Are in the same category as Edmonton’s transit busses…. Self defeating sad arrogance …. Cold weather and EV batteries…. Are not practically compatible.

Blessings and Prayers for rain…

[chuckChuck]

Bullshit! Deny all you want but I personally know someone whose shop burned down from a rechargeable battery. The insurance adjuster said so. So you’re smarter than sgi now? What a dough head.

Wilton you sound angry? Drought and heat getting you down?

I said I know they can happen. But I also said the other sources of shop fires are much more common.

And I never said that any fires are acceptable.

But if your argument against the coming electrification and EVs is they sometimes catch fire you are ignoring the fact that all vehicles catch fire sometimes.

[fjlip]

Check 1000's cars burned in another ship....EV started that too. $millions wasted, polluted water...

[TOM4CWB]

Check 1000's cars burned in another ship....EV started that too. $millions wasted, polluted water...

As someone who lost our shop… with untold cost and sacrifice…

You simplify and trivialize the trials folks must endure… to satisfy a mindless illogical cult religion… the climate change C02 fetishizes… the irrational pointless waste of inordinate amounts of resources and human suffering… for an arrogant theory that is bound to fail… especially here in western Canada.

Blessings and Prayers