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[Guest]

OMG that must be expensive to plant those phuckers in the ocean.

And the noise of ships bother aquatic life , but these humming bastards will not .?

[furrowtickler]

But but , free cheap energy…… just ask Western European countries…..

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Still waiting for Chuck to answer my question about state of the art off-shore wind making power bills cheaper.

Just keep repeating the following, it makes it true:
low cost wind and solar, and expensive fossil fuel generation

[chuckChuck]

Still can't produce any evidence from the chart that high electricity prices in the EU are only the fault of renewables? LOL

Especially when the IEA says:

"Low-cost wind and solar PV are on course to displace an estimated 230 terawatt-hours (TWh) of expensive fossil fuel generation over the 2021-2023 period, helping to reduce wholesale electricity prices in all European markets. Without these capacity additions, the average wholesale price of electricity in the EU in 2022 would have been 8% higher, hurting consumers, businesses and government budgets"

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Still can't produce any evidence from the chart that high electricity prices in the EU are only the fault of renewables? LOL

Especially when the IEA says:

"Low-cost wind and solar PV are on course to displace an estimated 230 terawatt-hours (TWh) of expensive fossil fuel generation over the 2021-2023 period, helping to reduce wholesale electricity prices in all European markets. Without these capacity additions, the average wholesale price of electricity in the EU in 2022 would have been 8% higher, hurting consumers, businesses and government budgets"

"If you repeat it, if you say it louder, if that’s your talking point, people will totally believe it!"

You forgot to bold the words expensive and low cost. That is the equivalent of saying it louder when you repeat the lie over and over.

[chuckChuck]

Still waiting on "global warming" so you can get your harvest done? LOL

But all you got is your flimsy opinion? But no actual evidence on EU electricity prices? Give up!

[furrowtickler]

Still waiting on "global warming" so you can get your harvest done? LOL

But all you got is your flimsy opinion? But no actual evidence on EU electricity prices? Give up!

It’s been shown here several times over the years , you just choice to completely ignore it cause it shows the exact opposite of what you blab on and on about cheap renewable electricity.
But that’s the usual train of thought from you , nothing new , just regurgitated propaganda over and over

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Still waiting on "global warming" so you can get your harvest done?

No need to wait for global warming. We've already experienced enough beneficial global warming over the last 40 years that we are able to grow long season crops again around here. For the first time since the 30s and 40s. The intervening decades had seasons so short that grain farming of any kind was a questionable proposition, let alone to be growing wheat and flax and other such long season crops that they were growing during the 30s and 40s and before.
Having CO2 levels slightly above starvation levels in recent decades has been a huge benefit as well.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Chuck, have you ever wondered how it is possible that it was so much warmer 80 years ago, when CO2 levels were barely 300 PPM? Then as CO2 kept rising all the way up to the early 80s, the temperature kept dropping. But somehow the warming ever since then has been entirely attributable to CO2.
It's almost enough to make one think that perhaps there is some other Factor affecting our weather. Almost as if it is cyclical.
We've added 130 parts per million of CO2 since the 30s, and still haven't exceeded the temperatures.

[chuckChuck]

"The year 1934 was a very hot year in the United States, ranking sixth behind 2012, 2016, 2015, 2006, and 1998. However, global warming takes into account temperatures over the entire planet, including the oceans. The land area of the U.S. accounts for only 2% of Earth's total surface area. Despite the U.S. sweltering in 1934, that year was not especially hot over the rest of the planet, as you can see on the 1934 map below. Globally, 1934 temperatures were actually cooler than average for the 20th century."

1934 top vs 2016 bottom




Climate change skeptics have pointed to 1934 in the U.S. as proof that recent hot years are not unusual. Choosing the year 1934 is an obvious example of "cherry-picking" a single fact that supports a claim, while ignoring the rest of the data. In fact they have to cherry pick both a location (the U.S.) and a year (1934) to find data that is far from the global trend. Globally, the years 2014, 2015 and 2016 are the hottest on record, so far.

Figure 2. Global land and ocean temperatures from 1880 to 2015. Source: National Climate Data Center



The fact that there were hot years in some parts of the world in the past is not an argument against global climate change. Regional and year-to-year temperature variations will always occur. The reason we are worried about climate change is that on average, over the entire world, the long term trend shows an undeniable increase in global surface temperatures and global ocean temperatures. This rapid global heating is dramatically altering the planet we live on.

https://skepticalscience.com/1934-hottest-year-on-record.htm

[cropgrower]

name one prediction made in the past 50 plus years that has come true as they said , been all pure garbage , explaln why we shud believe them now

[AlbertaFarmer5]

name one prediction made in the past 50 plus years that has come true as they said , been all pure garbage , explaln why we shud believe them now

Well, there was that time that the climate scientists predicted the coming ice age, they absolutely nailed that one.