Welcome to Canada, the land of free roads, cheap gas – and the world’s least fuel-eff

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Heard Polly get up in parliament and said farmers passing on the carbon tax is what is causing inflation.Since when can farmers tack on extra costs to what they sell their grain for..And anyone that markets their own grain knows exactly what caused the spike.A drought and war at the same time which in turn caused global inflation.

Are you suggesting that farmers are only price takers? Because when I pointed that out to forage a few days ago in the dairy thread, he got quite upset with me. Perhaps you could explain this simple concept to him.

[SmallTimeOperator]

Tax payers subsidizing roads equals free roads for users. What ever happened to the fiscally conservative idea of user pay?

If fuel taxes and fuel prices are so high, why are many consumers who don't need them, still choosing large inefficient trucks and SUVs for basic transportation?

You often see them lined up and idling while they pickup their coffee and tim bits.

I guess the price of fuel isn't that high if you want to waste it at 20% efficiency in the Tim Hortons line up in a vehicle designed to haul a 12,000 lb trailer. That's a lot of donuts!

And then we also wonder why we have a growing obesity problem and poor health?

Tax payers subsidizing roads means everyone pays. Reasonably fair in a country this size as even those in the cities that don’t drive outside the city much, still benefit from the roads all across the country being used to transport their food and clothing and disposable Chinese household products to Walmarts and Costcos everywhere. And when they leave the city to go to the lake, they don’t have to pay tolls on the roads as they already paid their Income Tax and the fuel tax for the gas they just filled up their car with. No problem here. (Except that the fuel tax goes into general revenue and likely gets spent on things other than road repairs). Let’s move on.

[furrowtickler]

Heard Polly get up in parliament and said farmers passing on the carbon tax is what is causing inflation.Since when can farmers tack on extra costs to what they sell their grain for..And anyone that markets their own grain knows exactly what caused the spike.A drought and war at the same time which in turn caused global inflation.

You have link to what PP said ?
This global inflation run started exactly right after Covid , then has been heightened by the drought in ‘21 and then the war .
Covid was the catalyst, the lockdowns , shutdowns of factories and businesses. Anyone with any common sense knows that fact
Inflation spiralled after that because of two things , free money and total breakdown of supply chains everywhere globally causing huge spikes in prices of nearly everything. The drought and war followed , and yes made some things worse .
Agree , farmers have absolutely zero to do with any of the above and “if” PP actually said that he is an idiot just as much as those who don’t understand global economics since Covid hit

[WiltonRanch]

Heard Polly get up in parliament and said farmers passing on the carbon tax is what is causing inflation.Since when can farmers tack on extra costs to what they sell their grain for..And anyone that markets their own grain knows exactly what caused the spike.A drought and war at the same time which in turn caused global inflation.

Trolling again are we?

[furrowtickler]

Interesting concept! Could even tax/charge by make and size of vehicle. Big heavy units that are harder on roads would be charged more, light vehicles and EV's be on lower scale.

Not sure how to get ones like me that drive older stuff pre GPS.

You do know EV’s are very heavy right ?

[walterm]

You do know EV’s are very heavy right ?

I was thinking compared to semi's and bigger trucks. But no I don't know the wieght of EV's compared to gas and diesel vehicles of same size.

[TSIPP]

Ford lightning is about 2500 pounds heavier than the F 150 gas. Free road is a total myth.

[furrowtickler]

I kinda already knew the answer…..

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I kinda already knew the answer…..

It's not only road safety, but also infrastucture.
Engineers are sounding the alarm about the extra weight on parking garages, overpasses, bridges, etc. They weren't designed with the additional weight in consideration.
So we can add the upgrades to all of that infrastructure to the cost of upgrading the grid and electrical service in every home and business, and the generation capacity.

[Hamloc]

I was thinking compared to semi's and bigger trucks. But no I don't know the wieght of EV's compared to gas and diesel vehicles of same size.

Not always easy to find the weight of gas and EV in the same models. As an example I tried to find the weight of the new 2024 Chevrolet Blazer EV. Weight is not available. A 2024 Hyundai Tucson SEL trim in a gas version weighs 3342 lbs., retail price in the US, $30735. A 2024 Hyundai Tucson PHEV plug in electric weighs 4902 lbs., retail price in the US is $39810. Info of off Edmunds.com. Electric version weigh 46% more!!!!

[Hamloc]

Chuck2, your complaining about there being very little tax on gasoline. In your future world of all electric cars, how will the road tax be payed? Electric cars weigh model to model 40-50% more!!!!

[newguy]

A phone that you can hold in your hand does way more than a computer that took 1000sq ft room to fit into 50 years ago.I expect battery technology is going to take leaps and bounds in efficiency in the next few years.