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    #41
    Because there is a RISK of liability, devalued due to MONSTROSITY bird grinder. And perhaps they know it's all SHIT!

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      #42
      Originally posted by Chief View Post
      If they put the solar panels high enough for cattle to walk under it might work. Not the case with the solar farms they have built so far.
      Would it matter? A cow will get down on her knees to eat under an obstacle, or reach 6 feet past the fence by sticking her head through the bottom wires. I think they could find a way to eat under a solar panel.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
        On the plus side Chuck 2, as you will see below at 7:15 this morning, wind generation was up to 14.2% of capacity, hydro was at 19.6% and of course solar was just waking up. Reality far different than the propaganda.
        And it has been all downhill since then. Wind in AB has spent most of the day below 10% of capacity. This has been the trend every day lately while it has been hot. A few days were between 0.05% and 3% all day.
        Yet, in the middle of winter when we point out to Chuck that the wind doesn't blow on really cold days when demand is highest, and there is no solar, he reassures us that there is another demand peak in the middle of summer for AC. This would be that demand peak, and just like the demand peak in winter, wind is no help at all.

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          #44
          Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
          Would it matter? A cow will get down on her knees to eat under an obstacle, or reach 6 feet past the fence by sticking her head through the bottom wires. I think they could find a way to eat under a solar panel.
          At the height they are at you could mount lewis cattle oilers. That would be handy. You have to think outside the box.

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            #45
            Solar panels belong in cities where the most power is required at peak times .
            Still think it’s idiotic to build solar panel systems way out in the middle of nowhere then bury cable or run high lines to cities . Seems a tremendous waste of resources

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              #46
              I bet the cable, install is as costly as the UGLY noisy flashing bird grinder.

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                #47
                Screw the power lines to the cities. Turn these intermittent sources into hydrogen and then to ammonia. It apparently takes a ton of gas and electricity to make ammonia the hauber-Bosch way and these new solar-wind ones are supposed to be more efficient and less energy intense. How many tonnes of ammonia gets made from a quarter of panels and windmills? The ammonia is made in the place where it’s needed. Less transportation, zero emissions, no need for transmission lines. Kind of a win win. Down the road when hydrogen engines show up there’s a ready fuel source in the country. See there Chuck I can brainstorm and not be an asshole.

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                  #48
                  Solar panels can go anywhere the sunshines and there is demand for electricity.

                  Farmers can invest and offset a lot of their power bills.

                  Utlility sized installations are a lot cheaper per kwh.

                  And we all know they are intermittent and supplemental to other sources.

                  But mine cover all our farm usage in an average year. All carbon emission and carbon tax free. Except for manufacture.

                  And the source of solar energy will never run out. There will be lots of storage options as the transition moves on.

                  There is a reason why Alberta was seeing massive increases in solar capacity. Economics.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
                    Screw the power lines to the cities. Turn these intermittent sources into hydrogen and then to ammonia. It apparently takes a ton of gas and electricity to make ammonia the hauber-Bosch way and these new solar-wind ones are supposed to be more efficient and less energy intense. How many tonnes of ammonia gets made from a quarter of panels and windmills? The ammonia is made in the place where it’s needed. Less transportation, zero emissions, no need for transmission lines. Kind of a win win. Down the road when hydrogen engines show up there’s a ready fuel source in the country. See there Chuck I can brainstorm and not be an asshole.
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                    This must be the green hydrogen plant in Newfieland we are going to supply Germany with.

                    $12.5 Billion for 250,000 te annual production from cheap wind.

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                      This is a plant that could easily be build in Western Canada using readily available gas and proven technology producing "blue" ammonia with carbon captured.

                      $2.9 billion for 1.2 million te yr.

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