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    #73
    Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
    My kids understand that nothing in life is free and must be earned . And that respect must go both ways . You earn respect and a living , it should not be given.
    Indeed respect should be earned.

    And earning respect includes not blaming the victim for the system they did not create and making uninformed generalizations about first nations people by insinuating they don't work or deserve support.

    And you also forgot that you are farming land that was taken from first nations and given to settlers for free. Tell me how the settlers earned the free land?

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      #74
      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
      Indeed respect should be earned.

      And earning respect includes not blaming the victim for the system they did not create and making uninformed generalizations about first nations people by insinuating they don't work or deserve support.

      And you also forgot that you are farming land that was taken from first nations and given to settlers for free. Tell me how the settlers earned the free land?
      You just finished saying that you are giving your farm to your kids.

      Tell me how your kids earned the free land?

      How are the first nations going to get the opportunity to prove they work and deserve respect and support in this system when they don't even get the opportunity to have access to the assets ( your farmland in this case)? What makes you think that your kids would be the best business manager and the best stewards of the land, compared to the first nations? How will you ever know, if you perpetuate the aristocratic nobility model that allowed someone with your lack of business acumen to become a landowner? A reminder, that someone who concluded that solar panels are a good business investment because they cost about the same as a new pickup truck, wouldn't be a businessman if not for inheriting the priveledge.
      Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Sep 9, 2023, 09:01.

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        #75
        Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
        You just finished saying that you are giving your farm to your kids.

        Tell me how your kids earned the free land?

        How are the first nations going to get the opportunity to prove they work and deserve respect and support in this system when they don't even get the opportunity to have access to the assets ( your farmland in this case)? What makes you think that your kids would be the best business manager and the best stewards of the land, compared to the first nations? How will you ever know, if you perpetuate the aristocratic nobility model that allowed someone with your lack of business acumen to become a landowner? A reminder, that someone who concluded that solar panels are a good business investment because they cost about the same as a new pickup truck, wouldn't be a businessman if not for inheriting the priveledge.
        I see you don't want to acknowledge that the settlers and colonizers didn't actually work and earn the first nations land they took and were given by the government as homesteaders. But you and the usual suspects are still sure that respect and land should be earned? LOL

        My grandparents weren't given this land as they did not homestead here. They purchased the land that they passed on to my parents

        How do you know what terms I will be using for transferring our farm assets?

        Are you going to expect your kids and grand kids to pay full market value for your farm assets again and again? That sounds like poor transition and business planning to me.

        Why would you burden your children who farm, with refinancing the purchase of your farm assets and pay all that interest because you might be a poor manager and didn't save enough for retirement?

        And I don't post my land and all hunters including first nations have access to hunt.

        And solar panels are a good investment at 8 cents per kwh. What do you pay per kwh for your electricity?

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          #76
          Why are you bringing me into this? I'm not the one who comes on to a public forum berating all of the other participants for not supporting first Nations, and the land back movement, which the NFU organization which you are a member of is a proponent of.
          Then hypocritically announces that your own land is going to remain in your family.
          Do as I say, not as I do. The Marxist motto.
          You are the one who made the claim that your solar panels are a good investment because they cost about the same as a new pickup truck. And you've made that claim multiple times.
          So on the positive side, if you have passed on those economic values to your own children, then there is a fairly good chance they won't be in business very long, and it will come up for sale and a first Nations will have the option to buy it. They will probably install a rainbow sidewalk across the farm because it costs about the same as a new suv.
          Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Sep 9, 2023, 14:14.

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            #77
            Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
            Why are you bringing me into this? I'm not the one who comes on to a public forum berating all of the other participants for not supporting first Nations, and the land back movement, which the NFU organization which you are a member of is a proponent of.
            Then hypocritically announces that your own land is going to remain in your family.
            Do as I say, not as I do. The Marxist motto.
            You are the one who made the claim that your solar panels are a good investment because they cost about the same as a new pickup truck. And you've made that claim multiple times.
            So on the positive side, if you have passed on those economic values to your own children, then there is a fairly good chance they won't be in business very long, and it will come up for sale and a first Nations will have the option to buy it. They will probably install a rainbow sidewalk across the farm because it costs about the same as a new suv.
            The question is why are you so opposed to reconciliation and sharing the land and resources that were stolen from first nations with little compensation?

            And the land back movement and the land sharing movement aren't only about private title transfer. They also include governments and first nations buying land or settling long disputed treaty land claims.

            It seems very odd that a libertarian would be trying to tell landowners what kind of relationship they should have with first nations and what they can do with their land.

            And why would a libertarian tell other people what to do with their money when it comes to investing in solar pv?

            It must really irritate you that solar pv has been a money making investment that results in lower electricity prices. But then maybe you make so little profit that you can't stand the idea of other people making good investments you don't agree with?

            Are you sure you are a real libertarian or just one of those fake ones when it suits you? LOL

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              #78
              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
              Nope all set up to go to my kids.

              But at least my kids will understand the history and impact of colonization, residential schools and the Indian act and have some sympathy for first nations and work together to make their lives better instead of blaming the victims for all their problems.
              Geez I didn’t know you had kids , never mentioned them before?
              Are they involved in the farm ?
              Ours are not , might be a blessing?

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                #79
                CC… the land agreements will First Nations were consensual contracts. Further any person could homestead…. Including First Nation people… native heritage is an integral component of the genetic foundation of the peoples of Canadians.

                The “Them and us” discrimination based philosophy you mount with such fervour… is a very sad reflection of your discrimination against the vast majority of Canadian farmers who honestly honoured their contracts with hearty contributions in building the amazing farm communities and families who sacrificed so much… to build our Canadian society.

                Instead of building a better Canadian society… your divisive political agenda is designed to tear our civilization into shreds. Like all communist Marxism… it is evil and deceptive to the core.

                Congratulations CC…

                Blessings and Prayers

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                  #80
                  First Nations and Métis got free land. They were given scrip land, they had the opportunity to accumulate others scrip land if that person was willing to sell it or lease it. Chuck, don’t act like only the white man got a free quarter because it is not true. as a matter of fact the Métis had scrip land way before white settlers set foot on the prairies so had a chance to establish themselves.
                  Last edited by sumdumguy; Sep 9, 2023, 20:35.

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                    #81
                    So if people first migrated 13,000 yrs ago, werent the ones that came a few thousand year later also colonizers as well.

                    Or was that all hugs and kisses...

                    How about the several million people that came into the country in the past 5 yrs, are they colonizers as well.

                    Or is this just a white settler thing.

                    There is evidence that humans may have been in NA as far back as 150,000 yrs ago. Wouldnt the people that came 13,000 yrs ago be colonizers then too.
                    Last edited by jazz; Sep 10, 2023, 07:08.

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                      #82
                      The colonizers and the settlers are on land that was taken from first nations.

                      In exchange they lost their culture and were forced onto marginal reserves with discriminatory rules that took away many of their rights.

                      A country that owes a lot of its success and wealth based on stolen first nations land?

                      Yet the detractors demand that first nations should earn their respect?

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                        #83
                        Give yours back to them and STFU.

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                          #84
                          yes and send your own kids out to ukraine to fight also if you support them so much

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