Grifters be griftin!

[chuckChuck]

The question is why are you so opposed to reconciliation and sharing the land and resources that were stolen from first nations with little compensation?

It's in our best interest a a country that first nations succeed in our society and that we acknowledge and accept the harm that was done and that we have a role in making the lives of first nations better.

[jazz]

What will they pay us for the 10,000 year tech upgrade chuck. Our health care alone doubled their life expectancy. Ford F350s dont spring from mother earth.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

The question is why are you so opposed to reconciliation and sharing the land and resources that were stolen from first nations with little compensation?

And the land back movement and the land sharing movement aren't only about private title transfer. They also include governments and first nations buying land or settling long disputed treaty land claims.

I see.

So it is governments and other peoples money that should be used to pay for sharing the land. Not you personally, it is fine if you continue your family dynasty and exclude first nations when you pass your inherited land down to the next generation, while expecting the government to take it away from someone else to give to the first nations.
You are only going to chastise everyone else for not doing enough, while you do absolutely nothing. While committing the ultimate white privilege, passing your assets on to your own offspring.
So what happens if your land is part of the long disputed treaty land claims?

[jazz]

So what happens if your land is part of the long disputed treaty land claims?

Last time I checked all the homes in Vancouver and Toronto and Montreal are built on native land too, allegedly.

Reparations will go over like a lead balloon. I doubt any of our more recent immigrants are willing to pay anything either.

So chuck just wants farmers to pay basically.

[furrowtickler]

The question is why are you so opposed to reconciliation and sharing the land and resources that were stolen from first nations with little compensation?

It's in our best interest a a country that first nations succeed in our society and that we acknowledge and accept the harm that was done and that we have a role in making the lives of first nations better.

Little compensation?????
Hundreds of billions over the past 50 years alone

[WiltonRanch]

I don’t have any problems with giving our First Nations a hand up. I’d like to see them succeed but like any community no matter the race success is determined by good attitudes and capable and honest leadership. A lot of initiatives with First Nations are approached with a communal focus but fail too often because not enough emphasis on individual initiatives. As well people are bloody jealous of the individual getting ahead and go out of their way to bring them back down by wrecking their stuff. I’ve seen this myself.

Reconciliation is fine and all and will take time but at the end of the day the impression I get is it’s another grab for money rather than fixing the archaic Indian act or cleaning up corruption within First Nations government. It didn’t help the process when the apparent mass graves were found causing the radicals to burn down churches only to find a lot of the graves weren’t mass graves and those there were not “murdered”. Bloody media jumped the gun again and caused that.

[chuckChuck]

No one expects indviduals to fix the land claims issues on their own.

That's the responsibility of governments.

But we know governments are dragging their feet on many first nations issues including land claims.

At least some of you are onside with the majority of Canadians who support reconciliation and want to acknowledge the injustice of our history.

Some of the rest just want to blame the victims, perpetuate stereotypes and ill will.

[blackpowder]

Is all the responsibility on government.
Placing none on today's participants?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Is all the responsibility on government.
Placing none on today's participants?

It is sure a good thing that governments have an unlimited supply of other peoples money.
And that they have such an excellent track record of being the most efficient way to take it from one pocket and put it into another at the lowest possible cost to the taxpayers, and ensure it ends up in the right pockets. And that the middleman take the smallest possible cut along the way.

Just imagine how much more efficient the process would be if you simply gave your stolen land back to a first nations member directly. No bureaucrats, no commissions, no endless studies, no consultants, no tribunals, no lawyers, no band chiefs with their hands in the cookie jar, no court costs. No endless years of court battles, to fight over the scraps that are left over after all of the above parties take their piece of the pie. 100% of your property would go to the intended recipient immediately.

[jazz]

At least some of you are onside with the majority of Canadians who support reconciliation and want to acknowledge the injustice of our history.
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Doesnt register at all with the general public. Neither does climate change. Looks like its a bust and people wont pay for any of it or even acknowledge it. Empty platitudes is about all its going to get.

At the pace of our immigration, our FN people will relegated to obscure forgotten victim class if they dont get their heads out of the sand pretty quick.

[WiltonRanch]

Doesnt register at all with the general public. Neither does climate change. Looks like its a bust and people wont pay for any of it or even acknowledge it. Empty platitudes is about all its going to get.

At the pace of our immigration, our FN people will relegated to obscure forgotten victim class if they dont get their heads out of the sand pretty quick.

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People worry about others misfortunes until their own state is a misfortune. The bleeding hearts have it well enough to keep on with the causes but if you have a tough time buying groceries and essentials, mortgage, rent, car, gas etc. The plight of others becomes static in the background. The perpetually offended ready to chain themselves to trees or die on the hill for whatever cause should consider themselves fortunate they can undertake such pursuits because life at home is comfortable.

[chuckChuck]

Notably health care and climate are tied at 7%.

Of course making a living and paying the mortgage and the food bill are the top issues and worries for many voters.