Canada reports worst wildfire season on record — and there's more to come this fall

[jazz]

Maybe chuck can tell us if obama and oprah and bezos will be selling their properties now.

I mean they are on the front line of climate change. Fire burns you out and the seal levels drown you out.

Funny they are still greenlighting homebuilding in boreal areas and on maimi waterfront.

I am sure its nothing because we will all be dead by 2030 right chuck.

[chuckChuck]

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Same data I posted earlier.

Did you not look at it or can you not understand what it shows? Which is non of the above.

2023 is a bad yr for fires. But what you posted does not apply to Canada.

The research I posted looks at global trends. You posted data from only one country from 1980 to 2000


If you use the period 1959 2015 the trend the number of fires over 200ha and area burned has increased.

Fire-regime changes in Canada over the last half century
Authors: Chelene C. Hanes chelene.hanes@canada.ca, Xianli Wang xianli.wang@canada.ca, Piyush Jain, Marc-André Parisien, John M. Little, and Mike D. FlanniganAuthors Info & Affiliations
Publication: Canadian Journal of Forest Research
16 November 2018
https://doi.org/10.1139/cjfr-2018-0293

Abstract
Contemporary fire regimes of Canadian forests have been well documented based on forest fire records between the late 1950s to 1990s. Due to known limitations of fire datasets, an analysis of changes in fire-regime characteristics could not be easily undertaken. This paper presents fire-regime trends nationally and within two zonation systems, the homogeneous fire-regime zones and ecozones, for two time periods, 1959–2015 and 1980–2015. Nationally, trends in both area burned and number of large fires (≥200 ha) have increased significantly since 1959, which might be due to increases in lightning-caused fires. Human-caused fires, in contrast, have shown a decline. Results suggest that large fires have been getting larger over the last 57 years and that the fire season has been starting approximately one week earlier and ending one week later. At the regional level, trends in fire regimes are variable across the country, with fewer significant trends. Area burned, number of large fires, and lightning-caused fires are increasing in most of western Canada, whereas human-caused fires are either stable or declining throughout the country. Overall, Canadian forests appear to have been engaged in a trajectory towards more active fire regimes over the last half century.
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[kANOLA]

The research I posted looks at global trends. You posted data from only one country from 1980 to 2000


If you use the period 1959 2015 the trend the number of fires over 200ha and area burned has increased.

Fire-regime changes in Canada over the last half century
Authors: Chelene C. Hanes chelene.hanes@canada.ca, Xianli Wang xianli.wang@canada.ca, Piyush Jain, Marc-André Parisien, John M. Little, and Mike D. FlanniganAuthors Info & Affiliations
Publication: Canadian Journal of Forest Research
16 November 2018
https://doi.org/10.1139/cjfr-2018-0293

Abstract
Contemporary fire regimes of Canadian forests have been well documented based on forest fire records between the late 1950s to 1990s. Due to known limitations of fire datasets, an analysis of changes in fire-regime characteristics could not be easily undertaken. This paper presents fire-regime trends nationally and within two zonation systems, the homogeneous fire-regime zones and ecozones, for two time periods, 1959–2015 and 1980–2015. Nationally, trends in both area burned and number of large fires (≥200 ha) have increased significantly since 1959, which might be due to increases in lightning-caused fires. Human-caused fires, in contrast, have shown a decline. Results suggest that large fires have been getting larger over the last 57 years and that the fire season has been starting approximately one week earlier and ending one week later. At the regional level, trends in fire regimes are variable across the country, with fewer significant trends. Area burned, number of large fires, and lightning-caused fires are increasing in most of western Canada, whereas human-caused fires are either stable or declining throughout the country. Overall, Canadian forests appear to have been engaged in a trajectory towards more active fire regimes over the last half century.
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Sorry I am not a cut and paste guy,but I have been travelling in Alaska for the last five days and with everyone we have met they tell us how cool and wet the season has been.The Yukon seemed fairly dry but as we drove west it’s a different story.I really believe we are dealing with weather like weather does it’s thing. Last year my bear hunt was called off because of a hot dry spring and berries didn’t set. This year it’s totally opposite.I think we are being fed a bunch of BS.

[chuckChuck]

Anecdotal evidence and personal opinions don't stand up to research looking at many regions over long time periods.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Anecdotal evidence and personal opinions don't stand up to research looking at many regions over long time periods.

Yes, we really should look at forest fires over longer periods of time. Not cherry pick one season in one country .



Meanwhile, the US is having one of their lowest years ever for forest fires. It seems you cherry picked one region of one country in one season and attributed that to climate change. That looks more like anecdotal evidence and personal opinions than science to me.

[shtferbrains]

The research I posted looks at global trends. You posted data from only one country from 1980 to 2000
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I guess that confirms that you are not only unwilling but also incapable of reading any data.

There are obviously more than 20 bars on the chart as it covers 1980 to 2021 with the lowest year being 2020 as shown in the original posting.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I guess that confirms that you are not only unwilling but also incapable of reading any data.

There are obviously more than 20 bars on the chart as it covers 1980 to 2021 with the lowest year being 2020 as shown in the original posting.

I'm sure it is a complete coincidence that the source Chuck is referencing happened to cherry pick the start date for their data as 1959. Which as per the chart above of US forest fire area burned, indicates 1959 as the lowest point in the last century.

Wonder why they didn't use all the data available, the data which indicates the long-term down trend.

What's even more amazing, is when you consider how many more acres of forest there are in the US now compared to any time since colonization. More acres of forest, yet less acres burn.

[furrowtickler]

Yes, we really should look at forest fires over longer periods of time. Not cherry pick one season in one country .

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Meanwhile, the US is having one of their lowest years ever for forest fires. It seems you cherry picked one region of one country in one season and attributed that to climate change. That looks more like anecdotal evidence and personal opinions than science to me.

Good point
Just because the entire western and NW US had a colder and wetter than normal winter with tons of snow does not mean a use age coming tomorrow. People with one ounce of common sense should see both sides . But the chucks are completely blindsided or willing accomplices to the current agenda being pushed by the UN .
It will fail long term , more people are realizing the gig is up ….


This is all about wealth redistribution, has been from day one

[chuckChuck]

Yes, we really should look at forest fires over longer periods of time. Not cherry pick one season in one country .

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Meanwhile, the US is having one of their lowest years ever for forest fires. It seems you cherry picked one region of one country in one season and attributed that to climate change. That looks more like anecdotal evidence and personal opinions than science to me.

Do you think over that time period from 1926 there might have been a change in the resources in the US used to fight fires? Naw. That would have never happened? LOL

That's why you have experts do the analysis who understand the complexity of the issue.

Warmer and dryer because of climate change equals more frequent and intense forest fires.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Do you think over that time period from 1926 there might have been a change in the resources in the US used to fight fires? Naw. That would have never happened?

Warmer and dryer because of climate change equals more frequent and intense forest fires.

I am genuinely surprised to see you acknowledge the massive role fossil fuels have played in mitigating the effects of extreme weather. Those old horse drawn water bombers just weren't nearly as effective. The same is true with virtually every other extreme weather event, cheap plentiful reliable fossil fuels have reduced loss of life and property from all types of extreme weather.

Then you really shocked me again by bringing up the record warm and dry conditions during the 30's which resulted in the spike in forest fires as indicated on the map. I thought you were supposed to pretend the climate cycles which brought those conditions, then the subsequent cooldown don't exist, only the hockey stick model?