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    #61
    Originally posted by newguy View Post
    I suggest people take advice from their doctor and not from someone on a farm forum or a truck stop.
    There is a long list of doctors opposed to this shot on young children ….

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      #62
      Originally posted by newguy View Post
      I suggest people take advice from their doctor and not from someone on a farm forum or a truck stop.
      My doctor is 50lbs over weight so probably not an expert. Good enough to push pills, tests and referrals and not much after that.

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        #63
        Originally posted by caseih View Post
        I am suggesting that babies get NO EXPERIMENTAL DRUGS, no matter what they are for
        But you still support vaccines for babies?

        Covid vaccines are not experimental vaccines by any measure.

        Covid vaccines have passed rigorous clinical trials and been approved in every developed country they are used in. Just like all the other childhood vaccines you and your children have received.

        Plus they have hundreds of millions of vaccinations in the real world as evidence to measure the risk. And the risk of vaccines is very very small.

        But I know flat earthers will never be convinced of anything.

        Instead the rely on social media sources for their opinions? LOL
        Last edited by chuckChuck; Sep 16, 2023, 07:52.

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          #64
          I just don't seem to know personally of any kids getting sick or chronically ill from a childhood vaccine.
          I do know a few reasonably secluded country folk who have right after this.
          Too bad nobody's listening to each other and it's threatening the necessary ones.

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            #65
            Autism rate nicely correlated with the number of childhood vaccines. Now 1 in 36 up 3000% since 1980, couldnt be the 86 vaccines now on schedule could it?

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              #66
              WTF is wrong with you guys?

              "Covid vaccines are not experimental vaccines by any measure.

              Covid vaccines have passed rigorous clinical trials and been approved in every developed country they are used in."

              Like 8 mice and they all died? Like hide the info in 75000 pages and try to release over 10 years? Like NEVER tested on pregnant women...but use on them anyway?

              EUA only, none has never been fully approved because THEN Pharma would be liable. Wake up to the madness!

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                #67
                BL. You're stance that childhood vaccines and autism are tied is to say the least, simple-minded. You can do better if the evidence is there. I didn't go past Grade 12 but even I can see some hard questions.
                Shall we start with the diagnoses parameters for autism in the 70s compared to today??
                I'm a little busy to dig out the respective copies of the DSMs to illustrate the huge change, but I can assure you that the incentive to diagnose also exists in industry.
                "My child is too 'hard' to handle"
                Reach for the ADHD stickers and toss in a large ambiguous spectrum for good measure. More pills, more funding, more recognition. Life is good.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
                  BL. You're stance that childhood vaccines and autism are tied is to say the least, simple-minded. You can do better if the evidence is there. I didn't go past Grade 12 but even I can see some hard questions.
                  Shall we start with the diagnoses parameters for autism in the 70s compared to today??
                  I'm a little busy to dig out the respective copies of the DSMs to illustrate the huge change, but I can assure you that the incentive to diagnose also exists in industry.
                  "My child is too 'hard' to handle"
                  Reach for the ADHD stickers and toss in a large ambiguous spectrum for good measure. More pills, more funding, more recognition. Life is good.
                  Oh right the experts are baffled by SIDS and Autism, but no couldnt be the cumulative effects of 87 shots of mercury and aluminum adjuvants and god knows what else. Big pharma only has humanities health and best interests at heart right blackpowder? I have three close friends with Autistic kids, let me tell ya doesnt make their lives easy.

                  Last edited by biglentil; Sep 16, 2023, 12:01.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
                    BL. You're stance that childhood vaccines and autism are tied is to say the least, simple-minded. You can do better if the evidence is there. I didn't go past Grade 12 but even I can see some hard questions.
                    Shall we start with the diagnoses parameters for autism in the 70s compared to today??
                    I'm a little busy to dig out the respective copies of the DSMs to illustrate the huge change, but I can assure you that the incentive to diagnose also exists in industry.
                    "My child is too 'hard' to handle"
                    Reach for the ADHD stickers and toss in a large ambiguous spectrum for good measure. More pills, more funding, more recognition. Life is good.
                    Right on good sir. About the same can be said with cancer. Always hear cancer cases have increased since the old days but it’s always been around with the same frequency but let’s face it people are living longer and diagnosis and treatment is far better than years past. Not to mention smoking has decreased which will see a reduction in smoking related disease. If you want to see a disease vs environmental causation correlation look at ms clusters and natural occurrence of radon. The autism vaccine correlation is complete bullshit which has caused reemergence of preventable crap in certain communities. The Covid vaccine thing is another issue for another argument.

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                      #70
                      Do also believe that men can get pregnant and breast feed? Vaxxed kids fair much worse at nearly every metric.

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                        #71
                        Rigorously tested, are you on crack chuck. Vaccines take a decade to get past approvals. This one went into EUA inside of a year and still cant get full approval.

                        You are nuts to take this and even crazier to ask babies to do it.

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                          #72
                          The vaxx was rigorously tested on 80% of the population, some wing nuts even received 5 shots, the real nut jobs went back for more than 5!

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