Freedom Convoy Trial

[furrowtickler]

I suggest people take advice from their doctor and not from someone on a farm forum or a truck stop.

There is a long list of doctors opposed to this shot on young children ….

[jazz]

I suggest people take advice from their doctor and not from someone on a farm forum or a truck stop.

My doctor is 50lbs over weight so probably not an expert. Good enough to push pills, tests and referrals and not much after that.

[chuckChuck]

I am suggesting that babies get NO EXPERIMENTAL DRUGS, no matter what they are for

But you still support vaccines for babies?

Covid vaccines are not experimental vaccines by any measure.

Covid vaccines have passed rigorous clinical trials and been approved in every developed country they are used in. Just like all the other childhood vaccines you and your children have received.

Plus they have hundreds of millions of vaccinations in the real world as evidence to measure the risk. And the risk of vaccines is very very small.

But I know flat earthers will never be convinced of anything.

Instead the rely on social media sources for their opinions? LOL

[blackpowder]

I just don't seem to know personally of any kids getting sick or chronically ill from a childhood vaccine.
I do know a few reasonably secluded country folk who have right after this.
Too bad nobody's listening to each other and it's threatening the necessary ones.

[biglentil]

Autism rate nicely correlated with the number of childhood vaccines. Now 1 in 36 up 3000% since 1980, couldnt be the 86 vaccines now on schedule could it?

[fjlip]

WTF is wrong with you guys?

"Covid vaccines are not experimental vaccines by any measure.

Covid vaccines have passed rigorous clinical trials and been approved in every developed country they are used in."

Like 8 mice and they all died? Like hide the info in 75000 pages and try to release over 10 years? Like NEVER tested on pregnant women...but use on them anyway?

EUA only, none has never been fully approved because THEN Pharma would be liable. Wake up to the madness!

[blackpowder]

BL. You're stance that childhood vaccines and autism are tied is to say the least, simple-minded. You can do better if the evidence is there. I didn't go past Grade 12 but even I can see some hard questions.
Shall we start with the diagnoses parameters for autism in the 70s compared to today??
I'm a little busy to dig out the respective copies of the DSMs to illustrate the huge change, but I can assure you that the incentive to diagnose also exists in industry.
"My child is too 'hard' to handle"
Reach for the ADHD stickers and toss in a large ambiguous spectrum for good measure. More pills, more funding, more recognition. Life is good.

[biglentil]

BL. You're stance that childhood vaccines and autism are tied is to say the least, simple-minded. You can do better if the evidence is there. I didn't go past Grade 12 but even I can see some hard questions.
Shall we start with the diagnoses parameters for autism in the 70s compared to today??
I'm a little busy to dig out the respective copies of the DSMs to illustrate the huge change, but I can assure you that the incentive to diagnose also exists in industry.
"My child is too 'hard' to handle"
Reach for the ADHD stickers and toss in a large ambiguous spectrum for good measure. More pills, more funding, more recognition. Life is good.

Oh right the experts are baffled by SIDS and Autism, but no couldnt be the cumulative effects of 87 shots of mercury and aluminum adjuvants and god knows what else. Big pharma only has humanities health and best interests at heart right blackpowder? I have three close friends with Autistic kids, let me tell ya doesnt make their lives easy.

[WiltonRanch]

BL. You're stance that childhood vaccines and autism are tied is to say the least, simple-minded. You can do better if the evidence is there. I didn't go past Grade 12 but even I can see some hard questions.
Shall we start with the diagnoses parameters for autism in the 70s compared to today??
I'm a little busy to dig out the respective copies of the DSMs to illustrate the huge change, but I can assure you that the incentive to diagnose also exists in industry.
"My child is too 'hard' to handle"
Reach for the ADHD stickers and toss in a large ambiguous spectrum for good measure. More pills, more funding, more recognition. Life is good.

Right on good sir. About the same can be said with cancer. Always hear cancer cases have increased since the old days but it’s always been around with the same frequency but let’s face it people are living longer and diagnosis and treatment is far better than years past. Not to mention smoking has decreased which will see a reduction in smoking related disease. If you want to see a disease vs environmental causation correlation look at ms clusters and natural occurrence of radon. The autism vaccine correlation is complete bullshit which has caused reemergence of preventable crap in certain communities. The Covid vaccine thing is another issue for another argument.

[biglentil]

Do also believe that men can get pregnant and breast feed? Vaxxed kids fair much worse at nearly every metric.

[jazz]

Rigorously tested, are you on crack chuck. Vaccines take a decade to get past approvals. This one went into EUA inside of a year and still cant get full approval.

You are nuts to take this and even crazier to ask babies to do it.

[TSIPP]

The vaxx was rigorously tested on 80% of the population, some wing nuts even received 5 shots, the real nut jobs went back for more than 5!

[chuckChuck]

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/safety-of-vaccines.html

Hundreds of Millions of People Have Safely Received a COVID-19 Vaccine

More than 672 million doses of COVID-19 vaccine have been given in the United States from December 14, 2020, through March 1, 2023. To view the current total number of COVID-19 vaccinations that have been administered in the United States, please visit the CDC COVID Data Tracker.

COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective. COVID-19 vaccines were evaluated in tens of thousands of participants in clinical trials. The vaccines met the Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA’s) rigorous scientific standards for safety, effectiveness, and manufacturing quality needed to support emergency use authorization (EUA). Learn more about EUAs in this video.

The Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson/Janssen and Novavax COVID-19 vaccines will continue to undergo the most intensive safety monitoring in US history. This monitoring includes using both established and new safety monitoring systems to make sure that COVID-19 vaccines are safe.
Common Side Effects

Some people have side effects after getting their COVID-19 vaccine, while others might have no side effects. Side effects may affect the ability to do daily activities, but they should go away within a few days. Learn more about common side effects after COVID-19 vaccination.
Adverse Events (Serious Safety Problems) Are Rare

In rare cases, people have experienced serious health events after COVID-19 vaccination. Any health problem that happens after vaccination is considered an adverse event. An adverse event can be caused by the vaccine or can be caused by a coincidental event not related to the vaccine, such as an unrelated fever, that happened following vaccination.

To date, the systems in place to monitor the safety of these vaccines have found four serious types of adverse events following COVID-19 vaccination, with evidence that suggests, although rare, a link to certain types of COVID-19 vaccinations that were administered.

[fjlip]

And EVERY one shot up with 2-3-4-5, STILL had COVID! Some way worse. It prevented SFA. Now those have DOUBLE the spikes in their cells, plus a myriad of other yet to be seen effects.

[chuckChuck]

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vaccine-safety/summary.html

Reported side effects following COVID-19 vaccination in Canada

This page will be updated next on September 29, 2023 at noon EST.
Report summary updated June 9, 2023

A total of 98,194,601 vaccine doses have been administered in Canada as of May 26, 2023, including 8,784,275 bivalent doses. Adverse events (side effects) have been reported by 55,145 people. That’s about 6 people out of every 10,000 people vaccinated who have reported 1 or more adverse events.
Of the 55,145 individual reports, 44,239 were considered non-serious (0.045% of all doses administered) and 10,906 were considered serious (0.011% of all doses administered).
Of the 54,569 individual reports, 793 were following a bivalent vaccine. 596 were considered non-serious (0.007% of bivalent COVID-19 doses administered) and 197 (0.002% of bivalent COVID-19 doses administered) were considered serious.
Most adverse events are mild and include soreness at the site of injection or a slight fever.
Serious adverse events are rare, but do occur. They include anaphylaxis (a severe allergic reaction), which has been reported 774 times (1 report per 100,000 doses administered) for all COVID-19 vaccines across Canada. That’s why you may need to wait for a period of time after you receive a vaccination so that you can receive treatment in case of an allergic reaction.