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    Fisheries Round 2

    Trudeau is in the process of protecting the entire west coast ocean. There wont be fishing or LNG or anything going on there for the foreseeable future.

    Cautionary tale for agriculture.


    #2
    The salmon fishery has been in decline for a long time since before Trudeau. So its probably Harper's fault! LOL

    The drought and low water levels in BC are making the salmon runs less successful.

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      #3
      Until the snow and rains return like the western coast of the US last winter , it’s called weather cycles, not climate change

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        #4
        Except, this time it's not Newfies, it's First Nation. We shall see?

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          #5
          Thanks for posting that Jazz. It was very informative. Hardly mentioned salmon. I suspect chuck knows as much about fishing as he does agriculture.

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            #6
            Good Luck TruDope, they might dump a load of rotten fish on your doorstep- if you have one.

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              #7
              Originally posted by littledoggie View Post
              Thanks for posting that Jazz. It was very informative. Hardly mentioned salmon. I suspect chuck knows as much about fishing as he does agriculture.
              A little tidbit about the cod fisheries. It had a mortarium for 2 full years and then very restrictive quotas thereafter. Put tons of familys out of business, turned atlantic canada into an aged out socialist welfare mini-state. And then the cod recovered and the chinese now fish it off the 200 mile limit, take the catch back to china, cut it up and repackage it for sale here.

              One of the saddest most mis-mangaged govt program of all time, except for maybe the NEP. Now its going to be repeated.

              The scientist in the video says the salmon have not dwindled, just moved up the coast line due to rapid urbanization from immigration in the lower mainland. But fisherman cant even go up the coast to find them because thats all around Haida Gwaii and protected right up to Alaska border.
              Last edited by jazz; Sep 7, 2023, 16:24.

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                #8
                https://www.uswheat.org/wheatletter/facts-about-u-s-wheat-exports-and-the-columbia-snake-river-system/#:~:text=The%20Columbia%20Snake%20River%20System%2 0is%20the%20network%20of%20federal,far%20west%20as %20Longview%2C%20Wash.

                I don't know how to make that a hot link but it's a great piece about a similar issue on the Snake River where they want to take out 4 dams that enable grain to be shipped on barge from Lewiston Idaho to Portland for export.

                When this system was built it was a huge engineering accomplishment that could never be considered in todays heavily regulated environment. Probably cost hundreds of billions.

                A handful of envioromental activists want to spend $33 Billion to take it out because there is some theory it might restore WILD Salmon.

                When those dams were built we ate canned Salmon sandwiches.

                Now you can buy Salmon filets in any local supermarket ever day, all year.

                First world problem?
                Last edited by shtferbrains; Sep 7, 2023, 18:13.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                  The salmon fishery has been in decline for a long time since before Trudeau. So its probably Harper's fault! LOL

                  The drought and low water levels in BC are making the salmon runs less successful.
                  So what ? Take it out on our native friends as usual ??
                  I have native friends that operate their own fishery and salmon canning plant , amazing people , salt of the earth
                  Yea that idiot would go after them

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by shtferbrains View Post
                      https://www.uswheat.org/wheatletter/facts-about-u-s-wheat-exports-and-the-columbia-snake-river-system/#:~:text=The%20Columbia%20Snake%20River%20System%2 0is%20the%20network%20of%20federal,far%20west%20as %20Longview%2C%20Wash.

                      I don't know how to make that a hot link but it's a great piece about a similar issue on the Snake River where they want to take out 4 dams that enable grain to be shipped on barge from Lewiston Idaho to Portland for export.

                      When this system was built it was a huge engineering accomplishment that could never be considered in todays heavily regulated environment. Probably cost hundreds of billions.

                      A handful of envioromental activists want to spend $33 Billion to take it out because there is some theory it might restore WILD Salmon.

                      When those dams were built we ate canned Salmon sandwiches.

                      Now you can buy Salmon filets in any local supermarket ever day, all year.

                      First world problem?
                      But that won't stop Chuck from continually telling us that hydroelectric will fill in the gaps from solar and wind in the energy transition.
                      I didn't read the article, not sure if these dams are also used for hydroelectric, not that it matters, the green Wing nuts want to remove existing dams and prohibit any new dams, for any purpose.
                      Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Sep 8, 2023, 11:37.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by caseih View Post
                        So what ? Take it out on our native friends as usual ??
                        I have native friends that operate their own fishery and salmon canning plant , amazing people , salt of the earth
                        Yea that idiot would go after them
                        Well yes, they're small business.

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                          #13
                          Most salmon you see in the store is farmed, not wild. Wild stocks are in trouble.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                            Most salmon you see in the store is farmed
                            That was my point.

                            There is no shortage of salmon.

                            More available than any time in history.

                            Wild salmon is a political issue.
                            Used as a hot button issue to activate a small voter segment.
                            Not unlike all the emphasis on ***** folks.

                            Can't say q ueer folk?
                            Last edited by shtferbrains; Sep 9, 2023, 13:43.

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                              #15
                              'Abundance' of Fraser River pink salmon run exceeds forecast

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