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    Originally posted by newguy View Post
    If governments did not look into investing in what is important for the future grain farming would have been abandoned in Canada in the 80s.
    Well you apparently are unable to or simply refuse to respond to my question on how the carbon tax has positively affected your farm. Maybe you can explain to me what government investments were made in the eighty’s that make it possible for me to grain farm today?!

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      Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
      Well you apparently are unable to or simply refuse to respond to my question on how the carbon tax has positively affected your farm. Maybe you can explain to me what government investments were made in the eighty’s that make it possible for me to grain farm today?!
      The whole discussion was the carbon tax caused global inflation.Yet Moe tax has no influence.In the 80s and 90s there was a few disaster payments .Grip was no perfect deal but a person was thrown just enough to keep going.Many years the world had enough grain without Canada selling any.demand was low until ethanol plants started up to use up the glut of grains and boast grain orices.Ethanol never penciled out many years either but grain farmers were hooped without that market.

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        Originally posted by newguy View Post
        The whole discussion was the carbon tax caused global inflation.Yet Moe tax has no influence.In the 80s and 90s there was a few disaster payments .Grip was no perfect deal but a person was thrown just enough to keep going.Many years the world had enough grain without Canada selling any.demand was low until ethanol plants started up to use up the glut of grains and boast grain orices.Ethanol never penciled out many years either but grain farmers were hooped without that market.
        No …. But it’s a huge part of inflation that grossly underestimated…… like compounding interest

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          I like many others don’t like or agree with the Moe tax even remotely, many of us have said so . But the federal carbon tax is a completely different animal out of a cage that you and a handful of others here will never acknowledge.
          Simply because you hate your perceived succes of your neighbours , for once be honest with yourself.
          But the percentage of non taxpayers in Sask is very high , someone had to pay the bills
          Last edited by furrowtickler; Oct 23, 2023, 20:20.

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            It’s become so petty it’s embarrassing now

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              Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
              No …. But it’s a huge part of inflation that grossly underestimated…… like compounding interest
              Wrong again? The US has high inflation as well and no carbon tax.

              Trevor Tombe at the U of C calculated the relatively small impact of the carbon tax on inflation.

              "For that, we'll go to Trevor Tombe, the University of Calgary economist who's well-versed enough in this matter that he can harness Statistics Canada data to figure out these indirect costs.

              According to his calculations, these knock-ons do add to the impact of inflation, but they certainly don't double or triple the blow. In Ontario, the direct and indirect effects inflate prices by 0.207 per cent a year. In Alberta, it's 0.1875 per cent.

              In other words, we can rightly blame Trudeau's carbon tax for about one-fifteenth of Ontario's current inflation, or one-sixteenth of Alberta's. "Relatively small," is how Macklem put it.

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                Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                I like many others don’t like or agree with the Moe tax even remotely, many of us have said so . But the federal carbon tax is a completely different animal out of a cage that you and a handful of others here will never acknowledge.
                Simply because you hate your perceived succes of your neighbours , for once be honest with yourself.
                But the percentage of non taxpayers in Sask is very high , someone had to pay the bills
                Like how many think carbon tax is the cause of inflation but the Moe tax does not.When Moe setsup his tax department he will be aiming for a much bigger grab yet since no one cares about paying him taxes.

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                  Originally posted by newguy View Post
                  The whole discussion was the carbon tax caused global inflation.Yet Moe tax has no influence.In the 80s and 90s there was a few disaster payments .Grip was no perfect deal but a person was thrown just enough to keep going.Many years the world had enough grain without Canada selling any.demand was low until ethanol plants started up to use up the glut of grains and boast grain orices.Ethanol never penciled out many years either but grain farmers were hooped without that market.
                  First off I have never said the carbon tax caused global inflation. I am confused though, are you fore or against a carbon tax?

                  As for the ethanol industry, that certainly has nothing to do with the Canadian government. That was created out of the need in the USA for a replacement MTBE(gasoline oxygenate) and the desire to be less dependent on imported oil. Certainly did help the grain market.

                  As for Moe and his tax, as I have said I live in Alberta, my only question would be is what are his other options to replace this revenue? Personally I think Alberta should have a sales tax and put a much higher proportion of resource revenues into savings.

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                    Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
                    First off I have never said the carbon tax caused global inflation. I am confused though, are you fore or against a carbon tax?

                    As for the ethanol industry, that certainly has nothing to do with the Canadian government. That was created out of the need in the USA for a replacement MTBE(gasoline oxygenate) and the desire to be less dependent on imported oil. Certainly did help the grain market.

                    As for Moe and his tax, as I have said I live in Alberta, my only question would be is what are his other options to replace this revenue? Personally I think Alberta should have a sales tax and put a much higher proportion of resource revenues into savings.
                    Not sure you can be for a tax of any kind .but in the real world they are needed.As far as the carbon tax I am against misinformation that it is Canada's problem in terms of inflation.When the carbon tax started Moe said not now we can not afford it Then a few months later he hit farmers and Sask people with a whole new bunch of pst taxes.He said sin taxes do not work.He put up some of the provincial sin taxes.I expect Moe has his eyes on a sask capital gains tax if he gets elected again.

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                      Originally posted by newguy View Post
                      Not sure you can be for a tax of any kind .but in the real world they are needed.As far as the carbon tax I am against misinformation that it is Canada's problem in terms of inflation.When the carbon tax started Moe said not now we can not afford it Then a few months later he hit farmers and Sask people with a whole new bunch of pst taxes.He said sin taxes do not work.He put up some of the provincial sin taxes.I expect Moe has his eyes on a sask capital gains tax if he gets elected again.
                      So are you against carbon tax or not?

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