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    #31
    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
    But weren't telling us that we are in danger of too little CO2 and another ice age?

    Do you think the glaciers would be receding if we are heading into another ice age? LOL
    You are deflecting again.

    This question is actually really easy to answer. Unlike many of the questions I ask you which "science" doesn't have an answer, we really do know the answer to this one.

    So, since glaciers melting is caused by CO2, what year did they start melting? The year CO2 hit 400 ppm? 300? 250?

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      #32
      You have your hand up why don't you tell us?

      But it wont change the scientific reality that humans are causing relatively rapid climate change.

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        #33
        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
        You have your hand up why don't you tell us?

        But it wont change the scientific reality that humans are causing relatively rapid climate change.
        Because you won't accept any facts anyone else presents unless you yourself have found them on one of your approved sites.

        Your last line says it all. It doesn't matter what the facts say, your mind is made up, melting glaciers are caused by humans burning fossil fuels. Doesn't matter in which millennia they started melting. This is the definition of a blind ideologue. You won't even attempt to research information which could contradict your beliefs, and you openly admit your mind is made up regardless of facts.

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          #34
          Or to put it another way ; “once you know it all , you are done learning”

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            #35
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            You have your hand up why don't you tell us?

            But it wont change the scientific reality that humans are causing relatively rapid climate change.
            Have you figured out what CO2 level caused the glaciers to start melting yet?

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              #36
              AB5 describes himself:

              "You won't even attempt to research information which could contradict your beliefs, and you openly admit your mind is made up regardless of facts".

              And he never comes up with any credible science to backup his opinion that we need more CO2 not less and that climate change will be good for the world!

              Which scientific organizations agree with that nonsense? LOL

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                #37
                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                AB5 describes himself:

                "You won't even attempt to research information which could contradict your beliefs, and you openly admit your mind is made up regardless of facts".

                And he never comes up with any credible science to backup his opinion that we need more CO2 not less and that climate change will be good for the world!

                Which scientific organizations agree with that nonsense? LOL
                Is there any measure by which the world is worse off today, than at the end of the little ice age? Or even today vs the 70's at the trough of the last cooling cycle? There is no need for speculation, we have real time evidence about the benefits of warming. Crop yields, forest cover, desertification, life span, natural disasters, hurricanes, droughts, fires, floods, deaths from cold, deaths from heat, deaths from natural disasters, etc? Can you find even one metric by which humans or the earth is worse off now than in our recent cooler past?

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                  #38
                  There is a long list.

                  But to keep it simple and close to home.

                  Loss and depletion of the glaciers has reduced summertime stream flows out of the rockies along with very persistent drought on the west coast of North America.

                  Your hero David Schindler identified the loss of glacial runoff as a serious threat to seasonal water supplies and the ecosystems that rely on them.

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                    #39
                    Glaciers contribute SFA, maybe when the started melting. NOW we need snow pack and rain.


                    That means MORE water vapor, the green house gas you climate nazis don't talk about.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                      There is a long list.

                      But to keep it simple and close to home.

                      Loss and depletion of the glaciers has reduced summertime stream flows out of the rockies along with very persistent drought on the west coast of North America.

                      Your hero David Schindler identified the loss of glacial runoff as a serious threat to seasonal water supplies and the ecosystems that rely on them.
                      You really don't understand math. You say depletion of glaciers causes reduced summertime stream flows.
                      Depletion of glaciers literally causes increased streamflows. melting glaciers add water to the budget, above and beyond what comes from rain and snow. Stopping the glaciers from melting would REDUCE streamflow during the summer. We have been through this before. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

                      And I'm glad you keep bringing up the fact that my mother used to collaborate with Schindler, and that by extension, I need to agree with his extremist views. My parents also used to be friends with Terry Long since we were neighbors. By your logic, Do I also need to agree with his views?

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                        #41
                        Feds sent two fire chiefs to UN to beat the drum on climate change. Kelowna’s fire chief can’t figure out why buildings burn when planted amongst tall pines and no fire breaks surround the city. Hmmm, how dumb do they think the rest of the world is?

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                          #42
                          i guess Chuck was right. The glaciers are melting so fast they will be gone in less than 30 years according to this article.



                          My mistake, that dire warning was from 1921when CO2 level were 300 PPM.

                          I ask again, in what year did man made CO2 levels start the glaciers melting?

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                            #43
                            i have lived long enough to see that all the predictions were and are garbage

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                              But weren't telling us that we are in danger of too little CO2 and another ice age?

                              Do you think the glaciers would be receding if we are heading into another ice age? LOL
                              You are deflecting again.
                              What year did the glaciers start melting?

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                                #45
                                Here is some of David Schindlers work at the U of Alberta on climate change, loss of the glaciers and the affect on river flows.

                                https://sites.ualberta.ca/~ersc/water/climate/impacts4.htm

                                Reduced Summer River Flows

                                Many summer river flows in Alberta have changed drastically over the last century, and the graphs below show various summer river flows in Alberta. The flow reduction further downstream in the South Saskatchewan river is even more severe. At Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, the flow has dropped to 20% of that at the beginning of the 20th century. Summer flows are very ecologically important, for such things as fish spawning and rearing, and riparian sustenance. They also provide water for human uses such as irrigation.

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                                Last edited by chuckChuck; Sep 25, 2023, 07:21.

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