Abrupt, climate-induced increase in wildfires in British Columbia since the mid-2000s

[AlbertaFarmer5]

A5 There is now less glacier ice mass left to melt resulting in lower summer flows even though the temperature is higher because of warming.

The lower flows are because they are shrinking! Get it? Probably not. And that's why you want to discuss when the glaciers started melting? LOL

Give up!

But what caused them to melt so fast over a century ago, was CO2 to blame as well? At only 300 PPM?

You still haven't found the correct answer about when the glaciers started melting.

Do you think they started melting at the end of the ice age, and its been all down hill from there? Or have they grown and shrunk much more recently than that?

[chuckChuck]

I am sure a glaciologist could answer all of your questions in great detail. That is if you think experts and data matter? LOL

But the facts are CO2 is rising, the temperatures are rising and the glaciers are shrinking.

Natural variation of climate is a given but so is the impact of humans on climate with massive amounts of CO2 going into the atmosphere.

Look again at the NASA chart of the last 800,000 years that includes the glacial and interglacial periods and CO2 levels. What do you see?

Nothing above 300 ppm until the 20th century and now we are above 420!

[Guest]

Yep , whatever you say ,lol

[fjlip]

I am sure a glaciologist could answer all of your questions in great detail. That is if you think experts and data matter? LOL

But the facts are CO2 is rising, the temperatures are rising and the glaciers are shrinking.

Natural variation of climate is a given but so is the impact of humans on climate with massive amounts of CO2 going into the atmosphere.

Look again at the NASA chart of the last 800,000 years that includes the glacial and interglacial periods and CO2 levels. What do you see?

Nothing above 300 ppm until the 20th century and now we are above 420!

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GREAT! Hate to be entering an Iceage !

[chuckChuck]

Doesn't look like an ice age is coming back anytime soon. So you can relax and get the crop off at least!

You probably don't have to worry much. The last one ended about 10,000 years ago and it takes at least a couple of thousand years to get one going again, unless there is an asteroid or a super volcano in which case you will have much bigger problems to worry about!

And ice ages don't usually make top 1000 issues list that voters are concerned about, except if you happen to be a fervent climate change denier like A5 then it's in the top 3! LOL

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Doesn't look like an ice age is coming back anytime soon. So you can relax and get the crop off at least!

You probably don't have to worry much. The last one ended about 10,000 years ago and it takes at least a couple of thousand years to get one going again, unless there is an asteroid or a super volcano in which case you will have much bigger problems to worry about!

And ice ages don't usually make top 1000 issues list that voters are concerned about, except if you happen to be a fervent climate change denier like A5 then it's in the top 3! LOL

What are the other two in my top 3?

Do you think it needs to be a full blown ice age to cause catastrophic crop failures and a world wide energy crisis?
Is there nothing in-between?

[chuckChuck]

So which recent widespread crop failures were caused by cold weather caused by global cooling? LOL

A5 Did you already forget about the 2021 drought and the southern Alberta drought and heat of 2023?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

So which recent widespread crop failures were caused by cold weather caused by global cooling? LOL

A5 Did you already forget about the 2021 drought and the southern Alberta drought and heat of 2023?

You are old enough to remember the Mount Pinatubo eruption.

In 1991,when:

Mount Pinatubo erupted in the country’s north, blowing a cloud into the sky that would cast its shadow over the entire planet.

Considered the strongest terrestrial volcanic eruption in the past 100 years, the nearly 5,000 foot volcano had been dormant for over five centuries. Then, over the course of four days, Pinatubo spewed 10 billion tons of gas-charged magma and aerosols into the air.

The volcano erupted for four days.

The resulting haze cooled Earth by 0.9 F (0.5 C), according to the US Geological Survey. Though one degree is imperceptible to human skin, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences (pdf, p. 5) explains that a single-digit increase in the earth’s temperature can have dramatic effects: at 200-400% more land burned by wildfire; a 15% decrease in sea ice, and up to a 15% decrease in agricultural crop yield.

0.5 degrees cooler resulted in 15% decrease in crop yields worldwide.

What about when Tambora erupted, you might not remember that one, but the results in 1816, known as the year without a summer, saw crop yield losses up to 75%, even 90% on the other side of the globe. All caused by average global temperatures to decrease by 0.4–0.7 degrees C.

Meanwhile, throughout the period of beneficial global warming and increased CO2( plant food), world crop yields continue to increase year after year.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Chuck, How do you explain the 3600 years old human artifacts found in melting glaciers ?
How is it possible that glaciers were smaller 3600 years ago with CO2 levels barely half of what they are today? Yet today, the melting is caused by co2?

https://hyperallergic.com/846838/melting-glacial-ice-in-norway-reveals-intact-bronze-age-arrow/be

[fjlip]

Ha ha, got him, squirm climate nazi!

[chuckChuck]

I see A5 is sticking to the bonehead idea a cooling planet is our biggest risk?

He even cites the temporary cooling by a volcano that caused average temperatures to fall by .5 degrees after telling us for several years that the such small increases in temperature can't be accurately measured?

Plus the results of the volcanio were temporary and warming has continued at an accelerated pace.

But no, A5 still says cooling is a greater risk? Huh?

And no credible scientific organization or research backs up A5's fantasy problem! LOL

Give up!

[rumrocks]

I see A5 is sticking to the bonehead idea a cooling planet is our biggest risk?

He even cites the temporary cooling by a volcano that caused average temperatures to fall by .5 degrees after telling us for several years that the such small increases in temperature can't be accurately measured?

Plus the results of the volcanio were temporary and warming has continued at an accelerated pace.

But no, A5 still says cooling is a greater risk? Huh?

And no credible scientific organization or research backs up A5's fantasy problem! LOL

Give up!

What type of openers do you think would work best for seeding canola on a glacier.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I see A5 is sticking to the bonehead idea a cooling planet is our biggest risk?

He even cites the temporary cooling by a volcano that caused average temperatures to fall by .5 degrees after telling us for several years that the such small increases in temperature can't be accurately measured?

Plus the results of the volcanio were temporary and warming has continued at an accelerated pace.

But no, A5 still says cooling is a greater risk? Huh?

And no credible scientific organization or research backs up A5's fantasy problem! LOL

Give up!

How did the human artifacts get inside the glaciers 3600 years ago?

You are sounding increasingly like a creationist making up implausible excuses to debunk the scientific explanations for geologic or archeologic evidence that the world isn't 6000 years old.

[Guest]

Weeds love the extra co2 as well let alone all the herbicide resistant
ones, double whammy. Don't expect to get rich off higher levels of co2.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ask-the-experts-does-rising-co2-benefit-plants1/#

https://watershedsentinel.ca/articles/stop-the-spray/

[chuckChuck]

I see the flat earthers are getting prepared for the next ice age already! LOL

Even though average temperatures are still relatively rapidly rising and the ice sheets and glaciers are melting.

And A5 he waste his times talking about why its possible to find the remains of people in glaciers?

Is that because you don't think homo sapiens survived during glaciation?

The science says "modern" humans have been around for about 200,000 years and before that there were other ancestors of modern humans. That should have been enough time to lose artifacts in a glacier dont you think?