Murray Mandryk: Moe ignores 'irreparable harm' to kids in Saskatchewan

[chuckChuck]

How many transgender kids and families do you know Jazz?

Or are you just getting your stories and photos from far right social media?

Like mrna vaccines are genocide and the makers are nazis? LOL

And other not fit for public ideas!

[binthere]

So the teachers exclude social services and police as a personel choice or mandated obligation when children safety with parent or guardian is a concern. Slippery slope charles charles.

[chuckChuck]

From the experts above:

"We believe a transgender student’s best interests are served when school staff take an active role in supporting parent-child relationships. This includes supporting a transgender student in coming to feel safe and comfortable sharing their gender information with their parents, whenever possible. In our experience, this is typically what happens in schools. In fact, it is very rare that school staff respond to a transgender student’s request for confidentiality only by taking steps to ensure that this information stays private. This typically happens when there is evidence that a student is at risk of harm from their parents."

[shtferbrains]

Have you ever noticed that when you are around families that one of the parents has an extended level of education on childhood development they often have weird kids? Sometimes appearing dysfunctional?

Used to run into it when i coached Hockey.

You ever notice that Chuck?

Were your parents "Helicopter parents"?

[chuckChuck]

Nope they were older and had many kids before me.

And unfounded generalizations about experts are irrelevant to the discussion.

I am still waiting to hear from anyone who knows a transgender kid or their family well? So far just crickets!

When Curly Moe was asked this morning in an interview on CBC radio, whether any parents had come forward with a complaint about their kids using a different pronoun or name at school without the parents knowledge, poor Curly couldn't provide an example! LOL

Jeez you would think that with all the uproar about this he would at least have one case to talk about! LOL

[shtferbrains]

I actually know of a case with twins born with some issues as to how they identified.

Also know of one where they obviously made the wrong choice as an infant.

That's as much as I want to say on social media.

Can't believe you would expect an elected official to discuss individual cases that they personally know in a public interview to score political points.

[sumdumguy]

Actually Chuck, we have a girl in our family who is now Joey. No big deal, we love her just the same and we are, “Watchful waiting” wondering if she will one day decide Joey is forever - or not. We sure aren’t bent outta joint and don’t need to make a big issue of it, sure wish Joey the very best and a happy life despite the uncertainty that must weigh on the young mind. So- yes we do have experience with this issue, do you?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

..., poor Curly couldn't provide an example! LOL

Jeez you would think that with all the uproar about this he would at least have one case to talk about! LOL

With all of the uproar about solar and wind power being The cheapest source of generation, you'd think the renewables proponents could provide at least one example to talk about.

Or does this argument only work when the shoe is on the other foot?

[binthere]

Gee Charles maybe Mr. Moe is respecting parent child confidentiality. Don't be such a goof.

[chuckChuck]

Nobody was expecting Moe to mention names or discuss in detail a pronoun or name change. But he had trouble explaining why no one had received a complaint from parents.

This was a political decision because Moe is worried about the United Sask party and moved to the right to pander to voters who may support them in the next election.

A split vote is coming and Moe should pay attention to what just happened in Manitoba and in Alberta where 44% of voters voted for the NDP.

[newguy]

In the end Angry Moe passes a law to solve an issue between a child 15 and under and the child's parents.Issue may be legally solved but think that child and parents have a long road ahead of them in future conflicts.Maybe expert counseling is what is needed more for the family.Not even sure how often in Sask a law that Moe wants would actually be needed.I know of no cases personally. Maybe he should go to an emergency at a hospital and see Sasks real problem that a much higher amount of people experience .

[TSIPP]

Actually Chuck, we have a girl in our family who is now Joey. No big deal, we love her just the same and we are, “Watchful waiting” wondering if she will one day decide Joey is forever - or not. We sure aren’t bent outta joint and don’t need to make a big issue of it, sure wish Joey the very best and a happy life despite the uncertainty that must weigh on the young mind. So- yes we do have experience with this issue, do you?

I know of way too many, the schools are pushing this crap and kids are very vulnerable…..

[chuckChuck]

I know of way too many, the schools are pushing this crap and kids are very vulnerable…..

Wrong button. Oops.

Schools are supposed to be a welcoming accepting inclusive environments for everyone including LGBQT kids.

Teaching kids about LGBQT people and identity is not the same as promoting it.

Its like teaching kids about sex and healthy relationships so that they have more tools to make good decisions with. That is not promoting kids to have more sex.

There have always been gay and non binary kids and people in our communities. They were just never open about it because of the severe stigma. Times have changed. Attitudes amongst some people have not

Most kids are for better or worse able to access all the information they want on sex on the internet and on their phones. And the media, peers and friends influence kids more than parents on social issues. Do you think like your parents did about everything? Of course not!

You are not going to turn back the clock on cultural change, inclusion and diversity in an open society unless you are heavy handed like Ron DeSantis in Florida or the Taliban in Afghanistan.

[WiltonRanch]

Beyond this issue of sexual or gender orientation the level of confidentiality between student and school is certainly necessary with other issues. Recently there was an issue which involved the suicide of a teen who was forced to quit school because of their draconian anabaptist religious beliefs. Kid was crushed and depressed enough that he had to quit school and work to support his useless father that suicide was the only way out. Who would that kid’s advocate be if there isn’t some level of privacy between him and a guidance counsellor or teacher for a way out of an untenable situation? It isn’t all black and white. There’s shitty parents out there too. Same goes with allowing certain religions to only educate their kids to the minimum requirement grade 9 to purposely keep them stuck in the religion. It isn’t 1699 anymore Joseph or Jacob.