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WHY ARE POWER PRICES SO DARN HIGH? in Alberta

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    #11
    Originally posted by ajl View Post
    Yet another anti Alberta hit piece full of bullshit. Yes Alberta has its own carbon tax on electricity known as the large emitters scam. So yes carbon taxes whether federal or provincial are part of the problem. Next problem is nutly's shuttering of coal fired generation and replacing them with unreliables. This is funded by the large emitters scam (which was a PC initiative) and also pushes up the cost of transmission as our power bills pay for the lines to connect wind farms located in podunkville. Lasty I blame our own REA where we don't have a choice of retailers. Part of the cost of power is the fact that they buy it, mark it up and resell to the user. We do not have a choice of provider in Lakeland unlike the neighboring REA (Battle River). Fortunately we have been able to keep the bill down and don't pay much more than others. I fear next year when the contract has to be renewed with a monopoly supplier. Paying 11.2 cents this year per Kwh. Power pool price currently is around 3 cents as natural gas is currently cheap. Premier Smith has finally taken steps to curb the madness. 100% of the blame for the problem belongs to the government and any attempt to explain otherwise is simply more falsehood.
    What's you cost of delivered electricity per kwh all costs in?

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      #12
      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
      Harper is a graduate of the U of C so that explains it! LOL

      Bugger off Crap you don't have a clue and probably quit school in grade 8!
      Oh my , crop grower hit a nerve !

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        #13
        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
        Harper is a graduate of the U of C so that explains it! LOL

        Bugger off Crap you don't have a clue and probably quit school in grade 8!
        that would have been back in the days before the looneys took over LOL

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          #14
          Originally posted by cropgrower View Post
          that would have been back in the days before the looneys took over LOL

          It's sad when educational institutions teach/push agendas rather than focus on basics

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            #15
            Why Alberta Electricity Bills are Getting Higher — and What you can do About it

            https://energyrates.ca/why-alberta-electricity-bills-are-getting-higher-and-what-you-can-do-about-it/

            Transition to renewable energy generation

            Alberta is transitioning to renewable energy generation to meet the provincial government’s 2050 net-zero target. As this transition occurs, electricity demand is reaching record highs. There are several reasons for this. For example, more people are driving electric vehicles, which require significant amounts of energy to recharge. Another example is steel mills using electric arc furnaces rather than traditional coal fires. Electricity prices are starting to reflect the high demand. Albertans should expect electricity rates to remain high as the transition occurs.

            However, renewable generators can ease the pressure on the energy market. For example, average solar generation during daylight hours helped lower pool prices for Q1 2023. Because of the supply from solar generation, pool prices during the middle of the day were lower compared to the middle of the night.

            However, renewable generation provides additional supply to the Alberta electrical grid, which helps stabilize the energy market.

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              #16
              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
              What's you cost of delivered electricity per kwh all costs in?
              I re-upped the generation portion of my electricity in Dec. 2022 at 6.9 cents a kwh through Enmax Easymax. In August of 2023 I put my deceased mothers on the same plan. The updated price for generation was 12.69 cents a kwh. Hmm the natural gas price in December was just under $6 a gigajoule. The price in August 2023 for Natural gas was $2.85 a gigajoule. The expensive part of the bill is transmission and distribution which in my case on both accounts is between 13 and 14 cents a kwh. No change year over year. Not even mentioned in the above article. Blah blah blah Chucky.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
                I re-upped the generation portion of my electricity in Dec. 2022 at 6.9 cents a kwh through Enmax Easymax. In August of 2023 I put my deceased mothers on the same plan. The updated price for generation was 12.69 cents a kwh. Hmm the natural gas price in December was just under $6 a gigajoule. The price in August 2023 for Natural gas was $2.85 a gigajoule. The expensive part of the bill is transmission and distribution which in my case on both accounts is between 13 and 14 cents a kwh. No change year over year. Not even mentioned in the above article. Blah blah blah Chucky.
                So you are paying 26.69 cents per kwh delivered? If so no wonder you guys are so pissed off. In Saskatchewan with Sask Power and regulated rates we are paying only about 14 cents per kwh!

                You can thank your Alberta Conservative governments for deregulating! But at least you got your market freedom! Freedom to be overcharged! LOL
                Last edited by chuckChuck; Oct 28, 2023, 10:04.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                  So you are paying 26.69 cents per kwh delivered? If so no wonder you guys are so pissed off. In Saskatchewan with Sask Power and regulated rates we are paying only about 14 cents per kwh!

                  You can thank your Alberta Conservative governments for deregulating! But at least you got your market freedom! Freedom to be overcharged! LOL
                  Hey chuck
                  Shut up. Why would you rip on us for something we have 0 control over?
                  We dont rip on you over in sask for your garbage and what.... 4th worst ranked healthcare outcomes and system in canada? I know i dont. I pity you infact.
                  And i pay 12c/ kwh
                  So suck it you donkey.

                  I dont have another option at my house other than northparklandppwer where 60% of my bill is transmission charges.
                  The ucp govt is 100% holding most ofthe blame cards here because the first thing they did when in power was lift the cap they could charge on electricity..AnD scrap solar subsidies.
                  Not all of us voted for the ucp and even less of us voted for danielle smith.

                  Whats your wait time on knee surgery? Mri?
                  Oh wait
                  NOBODY CARES.

                  My grandma always told us that a man is measured not by what they have or where theyve been... but by how they treat others.
                  And you sir, are a jerk.

                  Nothing more. Nothing less.
                  You gonna make fun of us for our sky high insurance rates that we love to pay?
                  Or how about my absurd contract dispute im having with 1 grain company?


                  Why dont you just.. sit the next few shifts out cuz you are contributing nothing on the ice.

                  You really make me sad for
                  - the internet
                  - humanity
                  - your wife
                  - your own brain
                  - your children
                  - anyone in your social sphere.


                  What a bummer it must to hangout with you. Or even live up in that ol brain of yours.

                  Hey homeless person, im chuckchuck, heres a free kick!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                    So you are paying 26.69 cents per kwh delivered? If so no wonder you guys are so pissed off. In Saskatchewan with Sask Power and regulated rates we are paying only about 14 cents per kwh!

                    You can thank your Alberta Conservative governments for deregulating! But at least you got your market freedom! Freedom to be overcharged! LOL
                    Actually $.1666 if you add the GST and liberal tax plus GST again

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                      #20
                      Goalie that's a long list of how bad I am? LOL

                      Do I care? Nope.

                      Some of you guys sure have thin skin for regulars on social media.

                      And I criticize Saskatchewan because we have our fair share of dumbass politicians too! Especially when it comes to healthcare and their priorities.


                      But what comments do you have about why Alberta electricity prices are so darn high?

                      I presented some analysis from economists at the U of C who understand the deregulated electrical system better than you or I.

                      And the price you quoted is that for electricity delivered including transmission?
                      Last edited by chuckChuck; Oct 28, 2023, 11:21.

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