New evidence confirms COVID-19 vaccines are overwhelmingly safe

[fjlip]

Like some azzholes keep repeating safe effective?

[Blaithin]

Careful when you go for a walk I have heard there is a steep drop just over the horizon. If you repeat something often enough some might believe it.

You’re going to compare my opinion that flu and covid vaccines are frequently not necessary to believing the Earth is flat?

Oh no!

Look at me caving to peer pressure.

I’m going to immediately go out and vaccinate all my cattle for pink eye and foot rot. Two issues that are also not usually necessary to vaccinate for because other management decisions can drastically impact their morbidity and mortality. But boy howdy, I’ve been told we need to vaccinate or I’m an idiot!

I’ll also book myself in for a Hep A+B, Yellow fever, Typhoid, and Dukoral because even though I’m not travelling anywhere so am at no increased risk from those, I’ve been told that available vaccines mean you must be vaccinated, no matter the actual necessity.

[agstar77]

You’re going to compare my opinion that flu and covid vaccines are frequently not necessary to believing the Earth is flat?

Oh no!

Look at me caving to peer pressure.

I’m going to immediately go out and vaccinate all my cattle for pink eye and foot rot. Two issues that are also not usually necessary to vaccinate for because other management decisions can drastically impact their morbidity and mortality. But boy howdy, I’ve been told we need to vaccinate or I’m an idiot!

I’ll also book myself in for a Hep A+B, Yellow fever, Typhoid, and Dukoral because even though I’m not travelling anywhere so am at no increased risk from those, I’ve been told that available vaccines mean you must be vaccinated, no matter the actual necessity.

Your statement inferred covid was not real and vaccines would not help. Would you like to clarify that? Of course if you do not wish to contact anyone a vaccine is not necessary. That is not what you stated.

[Blaithin]

Your statement inferred covid was not real and vaccines would not help. Would you like to clarify that? Of course if you do not wish to contact anyone a vaccine is not necessary. That is not what you stated.

In no way did I infer or insinuate covid is not real. I’m not a conspiracy theorist, don’t try and play me like I am. In your effort to be perceptive you’re erring on the side of assumption.

Being overwhelmingly not necessary is a far cry from “covid doesn’t even exist”

The flu exists, I don’t get a vaccine for that. I listed a couple of illnesses that can affect my cattle that I choose not to administer. Then there’s the issues I’m at no real risk of contacting in my current place so no need to vaccinate for. Covid joins the ilk of these.

It does not have the mortality they were afraid it was going to have, therefore it’s primarily fear mongering telling people they need to get vaccinated. The safety of the vaccine has no bearing to me, it’s the fact that I don’t need it to begin with, nor do most others.

It is overwhelmingly unnecessary.

[agstar77]

Stating it is not useful for you is a long way from stating it is not useful for others. Maybe you should apply your logic to the 50000 who died from it or all the health workers who had to save those that were not vaccinated. You might also use that logic to explain to those that suffered because medical resources used for covid patients were not available to treat other ailments.

[Blaithin]

Stating it is not useful for you is a long way from stating it is not useful for others. Maybe you should apply your logic to the 50000 who died from it or all the health workers who had to save those that were not vaccinated.

I said most others don’t need it.

You want to get vaccinated for everything under the sun, go for it. Twisting words around and trying to scare those of us with differing risk management isn’t going to change our minds.

Your health care comment is irrelevant. They are inherently at higher risk from all sorts of things, some extra people getting vaccinated won’t change that.

[blueversi]

New evidence confirms young healthy people shouldn’t risk the jab.

[agstar77]

I said most others don’t need it.

You want to get vaccinated for everything under the sun, go for it. Twisting words around and trying to scare those of us with differing risk management isn’t going to change our minds.

Your health care comment is irrelevant. They are inherently at higher risk from all sorts of things, some extra people getting vaccinated won’t change that.

I know many otherwise healthy individuals who were terribly sick with covid. So unless you have magic powers to determine who will be sick you argument is bogus. Do you vaccinate only the animals that will get sick?

[cropgrower]

far too many lies were told to us about the jab , i dont trust people after they tell me lies

[Blaithin]

I know many otherwise healthy individuals who were terribly sick with covid. So unless you have magic powers to determine who will be sick you argument is bogus. Do you vaccinate only the animals that will get sick?

No, I vaccinate for things that predominantly have high mortality. My goal in life is not to never get sick or experience illness, getting sick is a fact of life.

[agstar77]

No, I vaccinate for things that predominantly have high mortality. My goal in life is not to never get sick or experience illness, getting sick is a fact of life.

So what is your threshold for mortality rate in humans? Which diseases should be vaccinated against? Are people with pre existing conditions or advanced age expendable?

[Blaithin]

So what is your threshold for mortality rate in humans? Which diseases should be vaccinated against? Are people with pre existing conditions or advanced age expendable?

Remember this paragraph?


You want to get vaccinated for everything under the sun, go for it. Twisting words around and trying to scare those of us with differing risk management isn’t going to change our minds.

My threshold is my threshold, not yours.

As for your last sentence, yes, I’m a pretty strong supporter of survival of the fittest. Want to go start another thread to get into that discussion about genetic strength and over population?