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  • blackpowder
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    I really wish we could stop arguing over the vaccine. It denies us of a frank discussion about the far more dangerous matter of populist pandemic politics.
    Fear led to policies more harmful than the virus or any vaccine. Can't anyone admit to this?

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  • cropgrower
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    What one was it CC ? they did not know ? or just plain lies ?

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  • Jordy2323
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    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post

    And no vaccines are 100% effective at stopping transmission. But they provide significant protection and reduced severe illness

    You keep parroting this line, that no vaccine is 100% effective... How come health experts and politicians didn't know this about vaccines when the covid one came out?

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  • fjlip
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    "Adding risk from Covid AND risk from mRNA= higher heart damage risk.?"

    Answer chucky, better not get that small risk of reinfection...

    obviously they DAMAGE brains...

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  • chuckChuck
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    Huh? Where is the evidence the vaccines cause permanent damage to organs! Another made up antivaxer lie!

    And no vaccines are 100% effective at stopping transmission. But they provide significant protection and reduced severe illness

    Crop please ignore all your doctors advice, intervention treatment and tell us how that works? No antibiotics, pain killers, cancer treatment, highblood pressure, etc.

    And if and when you have a heart attack or stroke, just stay at home because some of the treatments have side effects and are not 100% effective!

    Last edited by chuckChuck; Nov 16, 2023, 07:56.

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  • cropgrower
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    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Research shows that repeat covid infections can cause damage to many organs especially those hospitalized with more severe covid.

    sequelae - a condition which is the consequence of a previous disease or injury.?

    Postacute sequelae of COVID-19 at 2 years

    ?[url]https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-023-02521-2[/url]

    More than 3 years after the onset of the COVID-19 global pandemic, a wave of evidence suggests that severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infection can lead to postacute sequelae in pulmonary and broad array of extrapulmonary organ systems. including increased risks and burdens of cardiovascular disorders, neurologic and mental health disorders, metabolic disorders (diabetes and dyslipidemia), kidney disorders and gastrointestinal disorders.
    if jab worked people would not be getting repeat infections , so double the risk when jabbed

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  • blackpowder
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    Look, you're never locking us up again. So you can stop now.

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  • chuckChuck
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    Research shows that repeat covid infections can cause damage to many organs especially those hospitalized with more severe covid.

    sequelae - a condition which is the consequence of a previous disease or injury.?

    Postacute sequelae of COVID-19 at 2 years

    ?[url]https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-023-02521-2[/url]

    More than 3 years after the onset of the COVID-19 global pandemic, a wave of evidence suggests that severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infection can lead to postacute sequelae in pulmonary and broad array of extrapulmonary organ systems. including increased risks and burdens of cardiovascular disorders, neurologic and mental health disorders, metabolic disorders (diabetes and dyslipidemia), kidney disorders and gastrointestinal disorders.

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  • fjlip
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    "some cases showed possible adverse events such as myocarditis."

    Adding risk from Covid AND risk from mRNA= higher heart damage risk.

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  • chuckChuck
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    Where is the actual evidence not just "suspicion" from antivaxers?

    Here is research from Japan that contradicts your opinions. Read the conclusion.

    [url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9392553/[/url]

    Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), the agent responsible for coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), has had a calamitous effect on the world [1] ([url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9392553/#b0005[/url]), [2] ([url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9392553/#b0010[/url]). The virus rapidly spread worldwide, leading to one of the most severe pandemics in human history. Vaccination is undoubtedly the most effective tool for preventing infectious disease, and is one of the most important breakthroughs in the history of medical science. The development of COVID-19 vaccines started in January 2020 with the identification of the genetic sequence of SARS-CoV-2 [3] ([url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9392553/#b0015[/url]). Vaccination against SARS-CoV-2 virus has proven to be a cornerstone of preventive strategies. The BNT162b2 (Comirnaty, BioNTech/Pfizer) and mRNA-1273 (Spikevax, Moderna) mRNA-based vaccines have demonstrated a high efficacy rate [4] ([url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9392553/#b0020[/url]), [5] ([url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9392553/#b0025[/url]). A recent study confirmed that three doses of BNT162b2 conferred high protection against hospital and emergency department admission due to both the delta and omicron variants in the first 3 months after vaccination [6] ([url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9392553/#b0030[/url]). A. Sheikh also showed that in comparison with the second vaccine doses, third or booster vaccine doses are associated with considerable added protection against symptomatic COVID-19 caused by the omicron variant [7] ([url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9392553/#b0035).?[/url]

    Conclusion
    Although many cases of deaths after COVID-19 vaccination in this study showed no definite causal relationship between the vaccination and deaths, some cases showed possible adverse events such as myocarditis.
    ??
    Last edited by chuckChuck; Nov 14, 2023, 08:09.

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