New evidence confirms COVID-19 vaccines are overwhelmingly not safe enough

[chuckChuck]

How many more preventable covid deaths are acceptable to you?

There have been very very few deaths from covid vaccines and millions of deaths from covid including over 50,000 in Canada. Without vaccines and other covid measures in the early waves, tens of thousands more people would have died.

And just because someone gets vaccines and dies dosen't mean the vaccine caused the death!

So your argument about deaths is a loser and there is no credible evidence that the risk of death from covid vaccines is significant.

If it was, why would Chief Medical Health Officers not be worried about it and still be recommending getting vaccines and that vaccines are still very safe!

You arguments don't hold water! Give up!

[TSIPP]

Just because someone dies with Covid it doesn’t mean they died from Covid, give up chuckroach, the vaxx isn’t safe or effective, it never was safe or effective.

[Guest]

Much like the local crime , unless it’s on your doorstep, it’s easily ignored

But it is on his doorstep?

[Guest]

Japan vax deaths. Chuck answer previous question.

[url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9392553/[/url]

[chuckChuck]

The researchers who worked on MRNA vaccine technology for decades before it was harnessed for covid vaccines just received the Nobel prize for medicine.

Meanwhile antivaxers should receive the Darwin award!


Katalin Karikó and Drew Weissman

for their discoveries concerning nucleoside base modifications that enabled the development of effective mRNA vaccines against COVID-19

The discoveries by the two Nobel Laureates were critical for developing effective mRNA vaccines against COVID-19 during the pandemic that began in early 2020. Through their groundbreaking findings, which have fundamentally changed our understanding of how mRNA interacts with our immune system, the laureates contributed to the unprecedented rate of vaccine development during one of the greatest threats to human health in modern times. 

Vaccines before the pandemic
Vaccination stimulates the formation of an immune response to a particular pathogen. This gives the body a head start in the fight against disease in the event of a later exposure. Vaccines based on killed or weakened viruses have long been available, exemplified by the vaccines against polio, measles, and yellow fever. In 1951, Max Theiler ([url]https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1951/theiler/facts/[/url]) was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for developing the yellow fever vaccine.

Thanks to the progress in molecular biology in recent decades, vaccines based on individual viral components, rather than whole viruses, have been developed. Parts of the viral genetic code, usually encoding proteins found on the virus surface, are used to make proteins that stimulate the formation of virus-blocking antibodies. Examples are the vaccines against the hepatitis B virus and human papillomavirus. Alternatively, parts of the viral genetic code can be moved to a harmless carrier virus, a “vector.” This method is used in vaccines against the Ebola virus. When vector vaccines are injected, the selected viral protein is produced in our cells, stimulating an immune response against the targeted virus.

Producing whole virus-, protein- and vector-based vaccines requires large-scale cell culture. This resource-intensive process limits the possibilities for rapid vaccine production in response to outbreaks and pandemics. Therefore, researchers have long attempted to develop vaccine technologies independent of cell culture, but this proved challenging.
[url]https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/2023/press-release/[/url]

[fjlip]

Japan vax deaths. Chuck answer previous question.

[url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9392553/[/url]

Research all these references to disprove them...you have a busy day CC.

[Guest]

Just curious how the unvaccinated aren't getting blamed anymore for the vaccinated recurrent bouts of covid from multiple variants. At first it was all our fault.

[chuckChuck]

Bin Lurkin, Thanks for posting the link to research from Japan that contradicts your arguments! Well done.

[url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9392553/[/url]

Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), the agent responsible for coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), has had a calamitous effect on the world [1] ([url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9392553/#b0005[/url]), [2] ([url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9392553/#b0010[/url]). The virus rapidly spread worldwide, leading to one of the most severe pandemics in human history. Vaccination is undoubtedly the most effective tool for preventing infectious disease, and is one of the most important breakthroughs in the history of medical science. The development of COVID-19 vaccines started in January 2020 with the identification of the genetic sequence of SARS-CoV-2 [3] ([url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9392553/#b0015[/url]). Vaccination against SARS-CoV-2 virus has proven to be a cornerstone of preventive strategies. The BNT162b2 (Comirnaty, BioNTech/Pfizer) and mRNA-1273 (Spikevax, Moderna) mRNA-based vaccines have demonstrated a high efficacy rate [4] ([url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9392553/#b0020[/url]), [5] ([url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9392553/#b0025[/url]). A recent study confirmed that three doses of BNT162b2 conferred high protection against hospital and emergency department admission due to both the delta and omicron variants in the first 3 months after vaccination [6] ([url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9392553/#b0030[/url]). A. Sheikh also showed that in comparison with the second vaccine doses, third or booster vaccine doses are associated with considerable added protection against symptomatic COVID-19 caused by the omicron variant [7] ([url]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9392553/#b0035).[/url]

Conclusion
Although many cases of deaths after COVID-19 vaccination in this study showed no definite causal relationship between the vaccination and deaths, some cases showed possible adverse events such as myocarditis.