Election on Monday

[cakadu]

I would hope that the people that didn't know which division they were in were new to the area. One of the candidates I heard about was spending most of her time fighting apathy.

Which municipalities do you think there will be big changes in - do you wish to share that right now? You're in the Camrose area? I've heard that a couple of municipalities have had major shakeups in the past couple of years. Certainly puts dealing with issues on the back burner.

Here's hoping for a good turnout tomorrow.

[cowman]

Good luck Linda! If you get in I hope you have some co-operative people to work with instead of the gong show we've had in RD county!

[cowman]

Municipalities to watch in my opinion are:

Mountainview
Brazeau
Woodlands
Leduc
to name a few.

[cakadu]

Thanks Cowman.

[ivbinconned]

FOR IMMEDIATE DIFFUSION PRESS RELEASE CRISIS Of the ESB: The NEW
FEDERAL PROGRAM COVERS ONLY 15 % OF the NEEDS FOR the PRODUCERS OF
BOVINES OF QUEBEC Longueuil, September 10, 2004 - "the producers of
Quebec appreciate the commitment of the new Canadian Minister for
agriculture to redouble efforts to make accelerate the process of
reopening of the borders to the cattle and the Canadian beef and veal.
They also greet the measurements put of before making just like
increase the capacity of demolition to the country the series of means
designed to develop new markets of export. However, they are extremely
disappointed transitional measures announced to come to them to
assistance "It is in these terms that reacted Mr. Michel
Dessureault, president of the Federation of the producers of
bovines of Quebec (FPBQ), Mr. Marcel Groleau, president of the
Federation of the producers of milk of Quebec and Mr. Laurent
Pellerin, president of the Union of the agricultural producers
(UPA), with the advertisement made today by the minister of
Agriculture and Agroalimentaire Canada, Mr. Andy Mitchell, of
his strategy to reposition the Canadian industry of the livestock. Of
entry of play, Mr. Dessureault specified that announced help is
insufficient and at all does not fill the needs for the producers of
beef animals and the dairy producers "In the new national strategy,
one does not find any direct help to compensate for the fall of price
of the bovines, nor no programme of free loans; two measurements which
are however essential and which were very awaited producers of Quebec
", it made a point of specifying. Mr. Groleau increases by adding
that "the dairy producers, who were compensated only for approximately
30 % of their losses to date, will not receive that crumbs in direct
compensation with the new advertisement" the president does not see
anything either in this advertisement which corrects the abuses the
intermediaries: "the selling price of the bovines has undergone a
major fall for 16 month without the consumers not seeing the color and
the government of it does not act" it denounced. - 2 - The two
federations concerned and the UPA evaluate the needs for the
Québécois producers to more than 141 million dollars whereas with the
announced transitional measures, Quebec should receive only between 15
and 20 million dollars, which represents less than 15 % of the needs
for the Québécois producers. Moreover, it is estimated that the
programmes of withdrawal (put side) of bouvillons and of calves of
fattening are likely to be not easily applicable to Quebec, and even
elsewhere in Canada. As for the assistance granted to the control program of the old
animals, it seems to us definitely insufficient to achieve the pursued
goals. Lastly, it is surprising to note that only measurement
announced to cure the problems of liquidities of the producers rises
from an already existing federal program, the PCSRA. Commenting on
new announced measurements, the president of the UPA, Mr. Laurent
Pellerin, presses the Mitchell minister to revise his strategy
to quickly inject new money in the bovine farms which are, recall it,
at the edge of the financial pit after 16 month of crisis "I
understand badly that last year, whereas Ottawa and Quebec poured some
150 million dollars to support the Québécois bovine production, that
one intervenes this time also modestly. However, nothing changed, the
situation of the producers is always also difficult "added, Mr.
Pellerin. Same breath, it adds that it is as important as the
Mitchell minister makes safe industry by developing an effective
strategy being based on a long-term horizon. The producers invite
Quebec now to benefit from the flexibility expresses of which Ottawa
seems to make proof. They thus enjoignent the Minister for
Agriculture, Mrs. Francoise Gauthier, to intensify his representations
near its federal counterpart so that the program is really adapted to
the characteristics of Quebec and that it is with the height of the
needs for the producers. Let us recall that the discovery of a case of
ESB in Alberta, May 20, 2003, involved the immediate closing of the
borders to export and carried out the bovine sector in a crisis
without precedent. Still today, the embargo affects 60 % of the bovine
products and results in a fall of price varying from 30 à.70.%,
according to the category of bovines. Affiliated with the Union of the
agricultural producers, the Federation of the producers of bovines of
Quebec gathers 24 300 calf and ox producers established in all the
areas of Quebec. Third more important production livestock in Quebec,
bovine industry generates annual sales of more than 600 million
dollars and markets some 800 000 bovines annually. The Federation
represents the five sectors of bovine production, that is to say those
of calves of fattening, of bouvillons of demolition, calves of
grain, milk calves as well as bovines of reform and dairy calves. - 30
- Information: Denise Audet Agente of communication Federation
of the producers of bovines of Quebec Tel.: (450) 679-0540, item 8354
Éliane Hamel Adviser, Public affairs Union of the agricultural
producers Tel.: (450) 679-0540, item 8591 Frederic Krikorian
Adviser public relations and governmental Federation of the milk
producers of Quebec Tel.. (450) 679-0530, item 8704

[ivbinconned]

The following is a short reply from a contact in Quebec as to the premiums producers pay. I note that he does not mention that one incentive to enroll in the ASRA programs is that they get a refund of 80% plus on property tax when they enroll. In Saskatchewan with some land reaching $2000.00 per year that would be quite an incentive indeed.
..................................
ASRA is a provincial income support insurance program that is voluntary.The premiums are set each year at a rate that allows the
cumulative fund to replenish itself and stay in a net positive position
over time.The producer pays 1/3 of the premium and the Financiere Agricole pays the other 2/3rds.
The fund pays out if the cost of production exceeds the market revenue
for an agricultural commodity.There will be payments in all beef sectors
this year as market revenue is at disaster levels.

[ivbinconned]

Financial statement as
with the supplementary programmes
ESB 3 – Programme of support for
animals of reform
• Tuesday last 13 April, the government of
Quebec finally carried out the payments
of the assistance to the producers under the terms of the program
ESB 3. They is some 30 M $ which has
thus been able to be versed in the bovine farms of
Quebec.
The producers cow-calf received the full one
compensation envisaged with the program, is
320 $/bovine of reform. Versed amounts
were established by taking account of a rate of
reform of 8% and on the basis of declaration
of inventory at September 1, 2003.
The dairy producers have, for their part,
receipt a payment which corresponds to 320 $/
bovine of reform and which takes account of a rate
of reform of 17%, on the basis of declaration
of inventory at September 1, 2003. In
correspondence sent to all the producers,
The Financial agricultural one indicates however
that the rate of reform used for the sector
slag could be revised with the rise according to
budgetary availabilities.
One remembers that on last 27 November,
Minister for the Agriculture of Quebec,
Mrs. Francoise Gauthier, had announced one
program of assistance adapted to the needs for
Quebec and which it had carried the rate of
acceptable reform for the dairy sector of
16% to 20%. The Federation thus expects it
that the minister respects his engagements and
that the dairy producers can receive
the totality of the promised assistance most quickly
possible.
• Always within the framework of this program, them
steps of the Federation near the government
federal continue in order to re-examine with
the rise rates of reform at 11% per year
for the sector of beef animals, and with
25% per year for the dairy sector.

[dolin]

we d ont need to enroll to the asra program for get 70 per cent return property taxes,just sell farm product. we have to sell at least 150.00 par acre income for get it.

[ivbinconned]

I welcome you to this forum dolin...you are a man of few words. Not like myself!!
You could contribute alot here and it would be welcome.

As to your last post though...it is not consistant with what you posted earlier on the thread "unfair". here is what you posted then... posted Sep 18, 2004 7:05
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if we don t pay ,we don t have 70 per cent return taxes of school and municipality.so we don t have a choice. ??

[dolin]

to be member of upa and asra program , it is not same.excuse me,i don t speak well english.

[ivbinconned]

No problem dolin your contribution here is welcome.
Perhaps I can help you out. There is a web site that you can go to , type in your text, up to 150 words and then click translate french to english instantly!! Try it out, this is it, http://www.systransoft.com/

If that does not work out for you give the administration permission to forward your e-mail address to me and I could recieve your posts in french...translate them and send them back to you, then you could copy and paste them in any tread of your choosing.