Getting religion

[FarmRanger]

Don't misunderstand me f_s, I have absoulutely no problem with the good apples, unless its the stupid selfish decisions they make while towing the party line. They may be good apples, but if they blindly go along with bad government, maybe they aren't as good as you seem to think.
Cudos to your son if he ever gets in as an independent. Towing the party line has sent this country down an every darkening path. I'd personally rather see more independents than Liberals, judging the kind of government we have been getting from them. At least they wouldn't blindly follow the leader, no matter what Simon, er Paul says. Independents are far more likely to get elected on their own merits, rather than because they hold up a Liberal, Conservative, or NDP banner.

[cowman]

Well I don't want to paint Chuck with a broad brush...but lets face it...by voting to keep Parliment going he actually benifitted? I mean the guy has cancer and I doubt he'd want to have to pay the drug bill if he was off the medical plan?
Also how much of a factor was payback? Payback for the Conservative party giving him the old heave ho? Not saying that was pretty...but it is modern ethnic politics?
But of course I'm obviously looking at things from the wrong perspective...I'm sure old Chuck was voting his constituents wishes,right? After all the polls said it...and the polls never lie?

[farmers_son]

Chuck Cadman got into politics after Cadman's 16-year-old son Jesse was murdered and he has worked hard to improve Young Offender Legislation. I do not think Cadman is in politics for personal gain. Cadman might be bitter after he did not get the Conservative nomination but he had his sweet revenge when he won the seat as an independent. Who knows why he voted as he did. He said it was his constituents wish, which even if that is not true it was how it should have been.

I think the cancer remark is a low blow.

Hockey seems to have been replaced as our national sport. The new number one sport in this country has become denigrating our elected politicians. While it may be fun and doesn't take much thought or effort the downside is it undoubtedly keeps good people from running for office.

[farmers_son]

After the horror in London this AM, I would think that our discussion about which party is best or worst or which politician is the most unscrupulous in Canada is fairly petty, and I include myself in this comment.
I think we are all of the same view about wanting to see politicians that deserve the respect of Canadians. I will say that Martin made some excellent comments this morning, but the one political leader that will come out of this horrible mess looking like a leader is Bush, because he has been relentless in his war against terrorism even in the face of a lot of criticism.

[cowman]

I doubt I'm the only person in the world who thought that, farmers son? I wasn't saying that is the reason he voted the way he did...but I do know a bit about how human nature can work! Everyone isn't noble and pure and usually people will do what is best for themselves....they might even go to great lengths to rationalize their motives!
And I wasn't knocking him for voting that way...he has to live with himself and his decision.