PMRA AT IT AGAIN TO SCREW FARMERS

[SASKFARMER3]

This just in our one way as farmers to get a decent generic product in Canada might get closed due to PMRA.
PMRA is going to implement a new GROU program that will only allow Products identical between USA and Canada Will be allowed (Roundup Transorb, Vs Roundup transorb)NO Clear-out 41 or any foreign Roundup.
Simply The Chemical companys have one and farmers who think Monsanto and others don't control us just look at what is happening.
One other note most of the top chemicals we use as farmers in Western Canada will be off patent in less than 4 years and without this no Generic will be allowed into Canada. Simply if the Feds wont help us as farmers we have to help ourselves.
The change in chemical price on our farm alone saved me over $22400 which is way more than CASIP paid etc.
Phone right due any thing to get the politicians to listen this is pure BS.

[SASKFARMER3]

One clarification I did not mean MONSANTO in any way but PMRA!

[sawfly]

i agree totaly why are we prevented from haveing access to generic herbicides that our competetors in south amercia and asia etc. have access to. once the patent has expired its a commodity like everthing else.

i did a calculation on my farm for the time frame after the patent on glyphosate ran out till we could get clearout 41. the extra costs for that one chemical was 150,000$ over 10 years.

if the govt. of this country wants to subsidise the chem companys , they should do it directly. not thru farmers pockets.

cdn govt. grain subsidies have averaged 25$/tonne over the years. roughly 22$/acre.

now consider what we overpay for herbicides. 40 to 60% saveings , on 20 $to 25$/acre(herbicide cost) would not be out of line.

I dont think taxpayers would be too happy to find out that 40% of grain farm subsidies end up in chem companys because they are protected from competition.

every farmer should call their MP and demand that we have access to these inputs at world prices.

if we dont, you can be sure , that with closed borders, any improvement in farm fortunes,can be sucked away with increased chem costs.

[SASKFARMER3]

Also a note to the cattle guys out their this will also stop the cross border trips to montana for IVOMEC or the generic that is down their.
Call!

[wedino]

Saskfarmer, I looked at PMRA website, but couldn't find where clearout has been banned, perhaps you can point me in the right direction.

[SASKFARMER3]

Under the new program it PMRA will only let in chemicals that are identical to what we have in canada.
Simply roundup transorb in US or roundup transorb in canada.
Clearout 41 is not available in canada so not listed .

Phone YOUR MP

[sawfly]

read the rules at the pmra website. you can kiss clearout goodbye.

1 the cdn regestrent of the pesticide will determine if the chem we want to import is the equilalant of theirs .

2 the manufactureing plant must be affiliated with the regestrant.
this is maddness, patents that last forever.
at this rate glyphosate will be back up to 10$/liter here while in brazil and china its 2$/liter

[SASKFARMER3]

Farmers should be up in arms burning buildings like they do in FRANCE! OK stupid example but those guys when something is done against them go nuts and here we just sit back and let every body kick us bellow the belt and we take it.
I made more money on this than any government has given me and now their stopping that.
FORSALE SIGN IS GETTING CLOSER TO BEING HUNG UP EVERY DAY!

[wedino]

This is what I find on PMRA website:

A final list of grower nominated GROU candidates was submitted to PMRA mid-August after which the affected Canadian registrants were requested to provide information to assess whether the products were materially identical to Canadian registered products. In addition, ClearOut 41 Plus was nominated as a GROU candidate in October 2006.

Full cooperation from Canadian registrants was identified as a key component to the success of the new program. To date, Canadian registrants have fully cooperated, providing all required information within the established time lines.

The PMRA review of the 13 GROU candidates is still underway. As of November 8, 2006, it has been determined that three (3) are materially identical, four (4) are not and six (6) are still under consideration.

Is Clearout one of the 4 that has been kicked already? It was nominated in Oct. Post the link that shows Clearout was kicked. I intend to write my MP, but want to be confident that what I say is correct.

[sawfly]

even if clearout is passed as sacrficial product. To make it look like the system is working.
What are the odds of other products (wild oat & broadleaf sprays ) when the current licence holder gets to determine if its the same or not.
talk about leaveing the fox in charge of the chicken coup.
and how are we to access any manufactures that arnt in the price fixing game. if they have to be affiliated with the current holder.

the situation we are in now would be like a consumer paying 850$ for a vcr today. although the patent ran out years ago and the vcr is sold for 80$ in other countries.
But the manufacturer gets the govt. to close the borders to imports. now they charge whatever they want. 850$ for vcr 1500$for dvd.
the consumer or farmer (in our case) has no choice pay up or live without.

isnt it strange that the same govts. that said a 2 price system for wheat in this country was unfair to millers and bakers and hampered their competitiveness .

yet they are doing the same thing to farmers takeing 10-15$/tonne out of their pockets and giveing it to large corps.

i thought fuedle times were over but i guess not .the farmer always ends up being the peasent

[dolin]

this fall, i buy glyfos and pay 40 par cent less that round up www.cheminova

[SASKFARMER3]

Yes But 3.75 canadian a liter clearout 41 available to an american farmer is still cheaper than Cheminova.