2023 on track to be the hottest year on record, say scientists

[Guest]

So a lot of stories and distractions repeated again and again but no actual science or evidence to backup your opinions?

Are you class clowns still going to keep disputing the overwhelming evidence of human caused climate change?

Of course you are! LOL

[url]https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperature[/url]


Highlights

• Earth’s temperature has risen by an average of 0.14° Fahrenheit (0.08° Celsius) per decade since 1880, or about 2° F in total.
  • The rate of warming since 1981 is more than twice as fast: 0.32° F (0.18° C) per decade.
• 2022 was the sixth-warmest year on record based on NOAA’s temperature data.
  • The 2022 surface temperature was 1.55 °F (0.86 °Celsius) warmer than the 20^th-century average of 57.0 °F (13.9 °C) and 1.90 ?F (1.06 ?C) warmer than the pre-industrial period (1880-1900).
• The 10 warmest years in the historical record have all occurred since 2010.

?Given the tremendous size and heat capacity of the global oceans, it takes a massive amount of heat energy to raise Earth’s average yearly surface temperature even a small amount. The roughly 2-degree Fahrenheit (1 degrees Celsius) increase in global average surface temperature that has occurred since the pre-industrial era (1880-1900) might seem small, but it means a significant increase in accumulated heat.

But but , you said ocean temperatures have risen SEVERAL degrees?

[blackpowder]

Crop you aren't worth arguing with. And you are just repeating climate change denier twaddle crap and ignoring actual science. So give up! You don't have a clue.

And you wonder why you're the pariah of Agriville.
You start the thread, knowing the response. Admit you argue, then belittle.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

And you wonder why you're the pariah of Agriville.
You start the thread, knowing the response. Admit you argue, then belittle.

Then gets upset that no one takes him seriously enough to waste the time formulating a serious factual response.

[chuckChuck]

So when are you going to come up with evidence that says NOAA is wrong about temperature data? Never!

Because several other world class research organizations have collected the same temperature data.

And I never said the oceans were already several degrees warmer now. I said what will happen to our climate if that occurs in the future considering the track we are on.

"Given the tremendous size and heat capacity of the global oceans, it takes a massive amount of heat energy to raise Earth’s average yearly surface temperature even a small amount. The roughly 2-degree Fahrenheit (1 degrees Celsius) increase in global average surface temperature that has occurred since the pre-industrial era (1880-1900) might seem small, but it means a significant increase in accumulated heat."

[checking]

Perhaps NOAA temperature data is only important if it is statistically significant.

Will you, or anyone be confident enough to state that these outcomes speculated shall happen. You even seem skeptical. It is coming from a guy who admits he will be dead before it happens, yet you will not state that these outcomes "shall" happen. Your statement, slightly rearranged is, what will happen to our climate if the oceans of the world, in the future, rise several degrees warmer than now considering the track we are on. If that was a question, would you answer it?

Maybe, is not an answer.

[shtferbrains]

"Given the tremendous size and heat capacity of the global oceans, it takes a massive amount of heat energy to raise Earth’s average yearly surface temperature even a small amount."

From data available from many sources:

This from [url]https://oceana.org/;[/url]

"Yet, one of the last unknown frontiers – and one of the most deceptively familiar – is on our very own planet. More than 80% of the ocean remains unexplored."

As you state Chuck, huge surface area. 71% of the earths surface is water. Some is 7 miles deep.

How many points do they measure to monitor that huge volume of water?

To "roughly 2 degrees fahrenheit"?

What does "one of the last unknown frontiers – and one of the most deceptively familiar" mean?
?

[sumdumguy]

Blah-blah-blah Chuck, go catch a mouse! ????

[fjlip]

Like Jordan Petersen says....it's all TOO complex to predict, from computer models, any accurate outcome. Literally billions of points of data are involved. One missed and all is crap. Plus most models are written to reach a pre determined result.

NEVER can anyone accurately measure an AVERAGE instant world temp! NEVER. Data changes every minute. How can we believe SO completely in a flawed man made scenario?

Called SUCKERS if we do.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

From data available from many sources:

This from [url]https://oceana.org/;[/url]

"Yet, one of the last unknown frontiers – and one of the most deceptively familiar – is on our very own planet. More than 80% of the ocean remains unexplored."

As you state Chuck, huge surface area. 71% of the earths surface is water. Some is 7 miles deep.

How many points do they measure to monitor that huge volume of water?

To "roughly 2 degrees fahrenheit"?

What does "one of the last unknown frontiers – and one of the most deceptively familiar" mean?

And even more importantly, anyone who thinks the atmosphere is even capable of warming up the oceans needs a lesson in basic physics.
The oceans literally have more than 1,000 times more heat capacity than the entire atmosphere.
The atmosphere would have to warm by more than 1,000°, to achieve Chucks fantasy of warming the oceans by even one degree, let alone multiple degrees. And the timescale is unimaginable.
But why let the laws of physics get in the way of a good doomsday story.

[Guest]

Do you ever get the feeling you are arguing with a 2 year old? Lol