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[AlbertaFarmer5]

There is a gas plant sight 5 kms. from me that is in the final stages of cleanup. Perfectly flat, no vegetation, would work perfectly.

My brother in law is decommissioning that plant, and many others for the same company.
The decision was made when gas prices were low.
Part way through the process, when prices were improved, management asked how much it would cost to put some of the plants back into production.
Didn't happen. But it would have been great job security.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

So is the flow of a river that’s been damned for hydro.

That seems like a harsh judgement to force on an innocent river.
It wasn't the rivers fault that it was dammed, perhaps they should have damned the engineers who designed the dam, instead of the poor river itself.

[chuckChuck]

But it sure sounds good on paper.
So useful idiots such as our very own Chuck, can endlessly repeat the mantra:
"cheapest generation"
While willfully ignoring the 9 to 11 % real world capacity factor.

So what happened to your commitment to stop name calling on Agrisilly?

Like on a lot of things you are all hat and no cattle!

Wind generation in Alberta is 20% and solar is 6% and more and more is coming on line. Coal is only 6%. Are you still going to keep saying that wind and solar don't work even as generation keeps growing by leaps and bounds?

Distribution of electricity generation in the Canadian province of Alberta as of July 2023, by source

[url]https://www.statista.com/statistics/1402468/electricity-generation-alberta-canada/[/url]

[shtferbrains]

Wind generation in Alberta is 20% and solar is 6% and more and more is coming on line. Coal is only 6%.

What do you think would be the ideal amounts of wind and solar?

It the company from Greece gets enough subsidies the could maybe take it to 150% of daily usage like Germany?

Would that replace the 6% Coal baseload?

[chuckChuck]

"There's no maximum percentage renewables per se, it's more a question of what portfolio gives you both cheap energy and sufficiency capacity when you need it."

From one of the Alberta energy economists who studies Alberta's system.

[shtferbrains]

Did he say if you added enough wind and solar to provide 150% of peak power demand you could replace that 7% coal .
Without all your industry looking for a new home because it's no longer a competitive environment?

[chuckChuck]

[url]https://www.lazard.com/research-insights/2023-levelized-cost-of-energyplus/[/url]

Solar PV utility scale $24 - $96 per MWh
Solar plus storage utility scale $46-$102 per MWh
Wind Onshore $24 - $75 per MWh
Gas Peaking $115 - $221 per MWh
Nuclear $141 - $221 per MWh

Now you can see why that there is so much wind and solar being installed in Alberta. And why Transalta is so bullish on renewables.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

[url]https://www.lazard.com/research-insights/2023-levelized-cost-of-energyplus/[/url]

Solar PV utility scale $24 - $96 per MWh
Solar plus storage utility scale $46-$102 per MWh
Wind Onshore $24 - $75 per MWh
Gas Peaking $115 - $221 per MWh
Nuclear $141 - $221 per MWh

Now you can see why that there is so much wind and solar being installed in Alberta. And why Transalta is so bullish on renewables.

Do you think those numbers are incorrect? Or is every single real world example where they have been installed incorrect?

Can you provide an example of where solar plus utility scale storage has been installed, and prices to consumers are in the $46 to $102 range?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Wind turbines do affect weather.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-02089-2 Wind plants can impact long-term local atmospheric conditions

[shtferbrains]

Which of these states do you think buy in on the Lazard calculation?

Must be Arkansas?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Which of these states do you think buy in on the Lazard calculation?

Must be Arkansas?

Yet again, the real world results completely contradict the theoretical models that Chuck presents in his repetitive cut and pastes.
It must be the real world results that are wrong though, couldn't possibly be Chuck's theoretical propaganda.

[furrowtickler]

The green dream