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    What if ‘Axe the Tax’ leaves most Canadians worse off?

    [url]https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-what-if-axe-the-tax-leaves-most-people-poorer/[/url]

    What if ‘Axe the Tax’ leaves most Canadians worse off?

    ​Tony Keller

    The slogan is short and punchy: “Axe the Tax.” The words have an obvious appeal for many Canadians: The carbon tax raises prices, so scrapping it would lower prices – and leave people with more money in their pockets.

    Right?

    That’s the theory behind Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre plan to “bring home lower prices and powerful paycheques” by taking a hatchet to the carbon levy. The claim that axing the carbon tax will leave Canadians financially better off could be a political winner for Mr. Poilievre.

    It has just one small defect. It’s not true.

    As strange as it sounds, most Canadians are getting more money rebated back to them from the federal carbon tax ([url]https://www.theglobeandmail.com/topics/carbon-tax/[/url]) than they pay in taxes. That’s not just the government’s claim. It’s also the conclusion of a 2021 study by three economists from the University of Calgary and the University of Regina, and the March, 2022, study from the Parliamentary Budget Officer
    The reason is that the federal carbon tax is an unusual, revenue-neutral device. The money collected is refunded to taxpayers. You pay in based on your carbon use, but you get a rebate – directly deposited into your bank account – largely based on the size of your family.

    A lot of Canadians are unaware of this, with a recent Angus Reid Institute poll finding that more than 40 per cent of Ontarians did not know that they’ve been regularly receiving payments. The Trudeau government has done a terrible job of communicating how its carbon tax revenue-recycling system works – and how most Canadians benefit from it.

    Every province has the option of running its own carbon pricing system, but if it declines to do so, Ottawa imposes a federal backstop. Two provinces – British Columbia and Quebec – have their own long-standing systems. They have no federal carbon tax to be axed, and no federal carbon tax rebates.

    In other provinces, the federal price of $65 a tonne of carbon applies. That translates into a carbon tax of 14.3 cents on a litre of gasoline. Next April, the federal carbon price will rise, and the tax on gas will go up to 17.6 cents a litre. By 2030, the carbon tax is scheduled to hit 37.4 cents a litre.

    That means the carbon tax is raising prices at the pump, and the price of goods that use fuels such as gasoline, diesel and natural gas. Put 50 litres in your tank, and you’ll pay more than $7 of carbon tax. By next spring, you’ll be paying nearly $9.

    Conservatives say that means the carbon tax is causing inflation. Technically speaking, they’re right. The consumer price index measures changes in prices, and the carbon tax is pushing up the price of some goods. If next year’s scheduled 3.3-cent increase in the carbon tax on gasoline raises the price of a fill-up from, say, $75 to $77, that’s 2.7 per cent inflation in gasoline.

    Looked at across the entire economy, the inflation impact of the carbon tax is small. Earlier this year, Tiff Macklem the Governor of the Bank of Canada, estimated that tax was contributing about 0.15 per cent to inflation. Not large, but not nothing.

    However, when most of us think of inflation ([url]https://www.theglobeandmail.com/topics/inflation/[/url]), we don’t think of something that leaves us with more money in our pocket. For example, if the price of bananas goes up by 10 cents a pound at your local grocery store, 100 per cent of that extra 10 cents goes to some combination of farmers, shippers, workers, wholesalers and the grocer. Zero per cent comes back to you. Your wallet is lighter. That’s inflation.

    But when the carbon tax rises by 3.3 cents a litre of gasoline next year, that will be returned to Canadians.

    And thanks to that rebate system, most people are getting back more than they’re paying out. That is particularly true for lower- and middle-income Canadians.

    The rebate, which the Trudeau government has done such a poor job of selling, is known as the Climate Action Incentive Payment. It’s paid quarterly, by direct deposit. For 2022-23, the annual payment for a family of four ranged from $745 in Ontario to $1,079 in Alberta. (Why do Albertans get more? Because Albertans use more carbon.) Rural residents also get a significant top-up.

    For most families – about 80 per cent of households, according to the government – the rebate is bigger than the amount of carbon tax paid. The vast majority of lower- and middle-income families come out ahead.

    Which leads to a paradox: The Canadians who would benefit most from killing the carbon tax are the upper-income family with four internal combustion engine vehicles. And the households who would lose the most from the end of the tax – who will suffer a loss of income – are the family living in an apartment and riding public transit.

    If a future Conservative government axes the carbon tax, it will at the same time be axing the financing for the carbon tax rebates. Most Canadians will end up with less money in their pockets, not more.

    #2
    Yup Crypto is standing up for the little guy! Wrong! Axing the carbon tax benefits the well off.

    The Liberals have so far done a very poor job of communicating how the carbon tax and rebates work.

    And Crypto is going to take the rebates out of your pocket and prices aren't going to come down. A lose lose for most Canadians.

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      #3
      but... but.... but...... the carbon tax is going to save the world.... what a ****ing joke you, and the whole Liberal government is... wealth redistribution disguised as a carbon tax. Why should people that make less money than me get money that is taken from me in the form of a tax, that could NEVER POSSIBLY have any impact on the climate... and then morons like you, and so many others on social media applaud this kind of asinine politics... what is wrong with the world today? Oh ya, the left...

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        #4
        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
        Yup Crypto is standing up for the little guy! Wrong! Axing the carbon tax benefits the well off.

        The Liberals have so far done a very poor job of communicating how the carbon tax and rebates work.

        And Crypto is going to take the rebates out of your pocket and prices aren't going to come down. A lose lose for most Canadians.
        How the carbon tax works?! What this article proves is that the carbon tax is all about income redistribution not the climate. From The National Post:”The parliamentary budget officer has said that about eight in 10 households end up with more from the rebate than they pay in carbon pricing, largely because small businesses pay a significant portion of the carbon price but get less than one-tenth back.” And remember the same parliamentary budget officer released a report back in March saying that the carbon tax will cost the average household up to $710 this year after rebates.

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          #5
          Here is the table showing the cost.

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            #6
            Originally posted by TraderJoe View Post
            but... but.... but...... the carbon tax is going to save the world.... what a ****ing joke you, and the whole Liberal government is... wealth redistribution disguised as a carbon tax. Why should people that make less money than me get money that is taken from me in the form of a tax, that could NEVER POSSIBLY have any impact on the climate... and then morons like you, and so many others on social media applaud this kind of asinine politics... what is wrong with the world today? Oh ya, the left...
            No way to better EXPLAIN to libtards...but they deaf/blind sheeple.

            Get more back simply divides us. Where is money coming from? Fairy dust?
            Giving to those who don't contribute is just VOTE buying scheme.

            Plus on top of it all, ZERO impact on the earth/sun/oceans or clouds which ARE the greenhouse gas.

            A strange brown/warm fall, and every weather reporter on radio/TV is so happy! Nobody SCARED of burning up. Everyone of us wants WARM over phucking COLD!



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              #7
              Canada makes 1.5% of worlds carbon , so if even if we bankrupt canada and get to zero what diference will it make ? clearly a wealth transfer scam supported by the most clueless , and that group is getting smaller every day , and i need to add CC i never read your copied big rants by some other looney left media , that are all flat out now trying to attack PP and cons
              Last edited by cropgrower; Dec 12, 2023, 10:04.

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                #8
                we’re paying $82.6 million for 465 full-time employees just to fund carbon tax bureaucrats.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
                  Here is the table showing the cost.
                  The liberal hate for Saskatchewan and Alberta shines through in this graph

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                    #10
                    Don’t worry , Guilt borrow will save Canada …

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                      #11
                      Enviro - Shaming ….. look at COP28 …. It’s ridiculous already as they all fly there on fossil fueled private jets
                      when are people going to say enough of this ???

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                        #12
                        Hey brain dead Libtards....is the $ wasted/borrowed enough yet?

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                          #13
                          Renewable natural gas plant being built near Calgary. Non food grade waste is the feedstock. Also producing climate friendly cow feed
                          As per the article, the output is only 10 times more expensive than actual natural gas.
                          But it will be economical as long as CO2 taxes continue to go much higher.
                          Sounds like an excellent sustainable business model.
                          This cost ratio, and reliance on government policy and subsidies from actual industries is common to all green scams.

                          Biofuel plants are also expensive to build — and the cost of producing RNG is significantly higher than normal methods. Producing natural gas costs about $3 to $4 per Metric Million British thermal units (MMBtu), whereas it’s around $30 per MMBtu for RNG.
                          But projects like Future Energy Park are made viable through emissions-reduction regulations such as Canada’s Clean Fuel Standards or the industrial carbon tax, said Bernie Roth, partner at Dentons Canada LLP, with a focus on energy regulation.


                          “At the end of the day, most of this activity is being supported by government policy,” he said.

                          Roth said biofuel plants need certainty the cost of carbon will continue to rise — large emitters in Alberta currently pay $65 per tonne of CO2 and will hit $170/tonne by 2030

                          [url]https://calgaryherald.com/business/local-business/construction-of-1-2b-biofuels-plant-on-edge-of-southeast-calgary-slated-for-next-spring[/url]

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                            #14
                            The Alberta and Saskatchewan oil and gas industries receive government subsidies and incentives.

                            And so do farmers.

                            But you A5 you seem only concerned about subsidies and support to renewable energy? LOL

                            Why is that?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                              Renewable natural gas plant being built near Calgary. Non food grade waste is the feedstock. Also producing climate friendly cow feed
                              As per the article, the output is only 10 times more expensive than actual natural gas.
                              But it will be economical as long as CO2 taxes continue to go much higher.
                              Sounds like an excellent sustainable business model.
                              This cost ratio, and reliance on government policy and subsidies from actual industries is common to all green scams.

                              Biofuel plants are also expensive to build — and the cost of producing RNG is significantly higher than normal methods. Producing natural gas costs about $3 to $4 per Metric Million British thermal units (MMBtu), whereas it’s around $30 per MMBtu for RNG.
                              But projects like Future Energy Park are made viable through emissions-reduction regulations such as Canada’s Clean Fuel Standards or the industrial carbon tax, said Bernie Roth, partner at Dentons Canada LLP, with a focus on energy regulation.


                              “At the end of the day, most of this activity is being supported by government policy,” he said.


                              Roth said biofuel plants need certainty the cost of carbon will continue to rise — large emitters in Alberta currently pay $65 per tonne of CO2 and will hit $170/tonne by 2030

                              [url]https://calgaryherald.com/business/local-business/construction-of-1-2b-biofuels-plant-on-edge-of-southeast-calgary-slated-for-next-spring[/url]
                              AB5, as you know we buy natural gas for heating in Alberta in gigajoules. A gigajoule is equivalent to 947817 BTU’s, so a little less than MMbtu. I payed $2.88 a gigajoule for natural gas on my last bill. This plant’s cost of production is just $28.43 a gigajoule. Roughly 10 times market price. This is absolutely ridiculous!!! Chuck2 is this the level of subsidization required for all brain dead green schemes?!?! Just like EV’s, subsidized by government but still more expensive!

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