Kool aid getting undrinkable

[Guest]

Obviously, you know nothing about the power grid

[chuckChuck]

What? You cant add another 30 amp circuit to your farm without blowing the main fuse? We are going to add another 200 amp service to deal with all the 20-50 amp fans running in August September. The rest of the year we have a lot of excess capacity and Solar PV covers our average annual usage at a much lower cost than Sask Power.

[blackpowder]

Can't wait until everyone on a city block or in an apartment complex plugs in at same time.

[chuckChuck]

The plan is to expand capacity of the system. Just like we have expanded the system all along.

Remember ICEs are 20% efficient vs 80% for EVs. So the total energy usage for EVs will be 60% lower.

Who in their right mind thinks wasting 60% of fossil fuel energy in an ICE is a good thing?

[shtferbrains]

Yes you guys got to stop drinking the antiscience climate change denial koolaid!

I'm sure the sagging EV sales can be improved with a little more tinkering with the programs.

Just need to bump up the point of sale subsidies?
And will have to subsidize the auto industry considerably more as they can't build EV's for an affordable price. The more they build the more they lose at current prices.
Can't forget about the raw materials needed for production. That will need a lot more subsidies to get that up and producing. Governments can compete with taxpayer money to get that all started even if there is no actual demand.

Will also have to make it much more expensive to drive an ICE vehicle in order to make the EV's more attractive. Direct taxes fuel and new purchases will have to increase a lot.
Restrict production of O&G to limit supply. Shut down as much pipeline capacity as possible. Increase regulatory to drive off investment.

Could rant on for pages.

But it can all be fixed with a little government tinkering.

Right Chuck?

[furrowtickler]

The plan is to expand capacity of the system. Just like we have expanded the system all along.

Remember ICEs are 20% efficient vs 80% for EVs. So the total energy usage for EVs will be 60% lower.

Who in their right mind thinks wasting 80% of fossil fuel energy in an ICE is a good thing?

How do you expect to run your 6000 ac farm in the near future with petroleum phase out ?
You’re gonna need a few more breakers to plug in the imaginary electric tractors , sprayers , combines , heavy trucks needed .
how will be possible to have enough power on farm to run this fantasy world with thin the next 5-10 years ?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

At home in your garage. Did you ever think of that Case? Imagine a plug in in your garage? Naw, that would never cross your mind

Actually, I did, and I've brought this up multiple times.
I've pointed out that we are sabotaging our grid by adding solar, and pushing consumers to do the same. When I point out to you that it will be difficult to charge your electric car at home in your garage at night using solar power, your solution is to charge at work. Now you are telling us we need to charge our EV's at home in our garage.
While also telling us the solution to intermittent renewable energy is to use EV batteries as storage. So we should plug our EV's in at night when the sun isn't shining, and on average, the wind is weaker, so they can accumulate the excess generation from the non existent solar power, then use them to discharge back into the grid during rush hour the next day when they are stuck in traffic no where near a plug in.

I can't see any inconsistencies with your plan at all. Should work perfectly. Where do I sign up?

[shtferbrains]

This depiction of solar supply vs demand in the Summer is from Mantoba power website.
Not hard to see why solar is often of little value as proven in California where they pay neighboring states to take it in order to balance the grid when the sun shines.
Doesn't apply to winter as production is essentially zero.
Is there any logical reason for consumers to susidize home based solar? If the individuals producing surplus power don't need it chances are no one else does either.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

This depiction of solar supply vs demand in the Summer is from Mantoba power website.
Not hard to see why solar is often of little value as proven in California where they pay neighboring states to take it in order to balance the grid when the sun shines.
Doesn't apply to winter as production is essentially zero.
Is there any logical reason for consumers to susidize home based solar? If the individuals producing surplus power don't need it chances are no one else does either.

Is that the same Manitoba hydro who Chuck keeps swooning about because they are going to stop building new hydro projects, and instead switch to wind and solar?
The same Manitoba hydro chuck insists Alberta and Saskatchewan can use as reliable base load generation when we switch to unreliable wind and solar?
It sounds like they didn't consult with Chuck before making that graph.

[blackpowder]

The plan is to expand capacity of the system. Just like we have expanded the system all along.

Remember ICEs are 20% efficient vs 80% for EVs. So the total energy usage for EVs will be 60% lower.

Who in their right mind thinks wasting 80% of fossil fuel energy in an ICE is a good thing?

Never said that. Affordable fuel and food will always be the way. Just suggesting a measured transition.
Political stability only exists in stable economies. I suggest you are using the wrong methods to "force" said stability.