Renewable energy’s share on German power grids reached 55% in 2023, regulator says

[chuckChuck]

Only January? What about the other 11 months?

55% of generation from renewables in the 12 months of 2023 A5!

And your response is to look at only one month?

Suck it up A5 and admit you are completely wrong when you say renewables are not going to work at any level.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Only January? What about the other 11 months?

55% of generation from renewables in the 12 months of 2023 A5!

And your response is to look at only one month?

Suck it up A5 and admit you are completely wrong when you say renewables are not going to work at any level.

They are working very well at achieving your agenda.
I already acknowledged that.
Just look at the deindustrialization of Germany thanks to high priced renewable energy.
Most of us don't consider that to be a success.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

As I was saying, green energy actually declined but industry declined so much faster that Chuck thinks this is a success. from Reuters:

However, total clean electricity generation in 2023 actually declined by 2.4% from the total seen in 2022, and at 269 terawatt hours (TWh) was the lowest cumulative sum of clean electricity generated in Germany since 2016.

[shtferbrains]

Chuck doesn't really understand charts and all that data.
Who reads that anyway?
The authorities will spin that stuff all down to a short news release that MSM will print for Chuck to cut and paste.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

As I was saying. Germany didn't achieve anything green.
They still use as much fossil fuel as they did before destroying their grid and affordability of energy.
They just reduced demand by destroying the grid and making energy cost prohibitive.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Thanks German folk for standing up to the madness

Some more details of why the farmers and truckers are protesting, and why the population supports them. Interesting to see what the government is defining as a subsidy. Reminds me of someone else we know who likes to mislabel everything they don't like as a subsidy.
The reasons tens of thousands of farmers and truckers have blocked major traffic arteries everywhere and paralyzed the country is because of the governments insatiable appetite for tax revenue, which it needs to pay for the massive green new deal to decarbonize Germany by 2040.
Moreover, governments in Europe are attempting to liquidate agriculture and hand over all the farmland to huge, faceless corporations. Farmers are rising up and are not going to take it anymore.

What is angering the farmers?

Higher fuel tax. The government announced it would raise the fuel tax on agricultural diesel. Farmers pay 20 cents a liter less than regular motorists. The government now says farmers have to pay the same price as everyone else. The problem, though, is that the fuel tax was initially imposed in order to pay for road maintenance and repair. And because tractors burn most of the fuel working the fields and not on streets, the government gave the farmers a break. The government now wants to end this “subsidy”.
Vehicle registration tax. The government also wants to impose a vehicle registration tax on tractors and forestry vehicles. Up to now, these vehicles have been exempt, because again their use was mostly off road. Here the government wants to charge a vehicle tax on tractors and foresty vehicles as well, and thus put an end to this “subsidy”.
Expanded highway tolls: Truckers are protesting the government’s plan to impose a highway toll on all vehicles that are 3.5 tons or heavier, beginning July 1, 2024.
Inflation: Higher energy prices, in large part due to renewable energies, have fueled inflation and made it more difficult for farmers and truckers to earn a living.
New fertilizer regulation, which limits and restricts farmers in their use of fertilizers and aimed to ensure “sustainable fertilizer practice, reliability for farmers, and clean waterways.
Other facts:

260,000 farms are operating in Germany. Many face financial hardship from the energy policies.
The conservative right-wing AfD and center-right CDU and CSU parties support the farmers.
The farmers and truckers are getting vast support from the population. Many are attending the protests.
Environmental groups, like Greenpeace, on the other hand, say the government’s controversial measures don’t go far enough and that agriculture is emitting too much greenhouse gases.
The farmers will protest at least a week.
Despite the disruptions, the farmers and truckers enjoy support from a vast majority of the citizens. They know that they will end up footing the bill through higher prices.
Farmers from neighboring countries like Poland, Austria, Hungary, France, Holland and Switzerland are joining the German protests.
The media and government first tried to ignore the protests, but now are attacking the farmers, some are even claiming Russia or Nazis are behind them.
In the meantime news of German farmer’s protests are captivating the headlines. The genie is out of the bottle.
Germany faces even more chaos, as the train conductors of the country’s massive German railway are threatening to go on strike next week.
Only 17% of Germans say they are very satisfied or somewhat satisfied with the government. So there’s a real chance that the protests could even intensify and spread.
What can be expected to happen?

Don’t expect the government and complicit media to give in to the farmer’s demands. They are ideologically driven and are convinced they know what’s best for everyone. They don’t care what the vast majority want. Dissenters get dismissed as rightwing nutjobs.
The CDU/CSU center right party, under the leadership of Angela Merkel, started the whole mess and they are no opposition (German RINOS).
Only the right-wing AfD party has taken on the role of opposition. Currently they are polling at about 21-22% nationwide. over 30% in the East. There are calls to ban the party, because some claim they are “a danger to democracy.”
Tumultuous times in Germany and Europe

[cropgrower]

yes the tax relief on fuel was what made them reach a tipping point , that some are clueless enough to call a subsity , its a protest against the whole globalist agenda

[AlbertaFarmer5]

yes the tax relief on fuel was what made them reach a tipping point , that some are clueless enough to call a subsity , its a protest against the whole globalist agenda

Removing the road tax exemption would literally be the opposite of a subsidy. It Would be the farmers subsidizing motorists.

[chuckChuck]

Yes farmers here complain about all the subsidies to other industries but get really pissed when you mention the subsidies we receive as farmers. Let alone taking them away.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Yes farmers here complain about all the subsidies to other industries but get really pissed when you mention the subsidies we receive as farmers. Let alone taking them away.

So not paying a road tax on a road you don't use is a subsidy?

[chuckChuck]

Farm trucks dont drive on roads sometimes?

What about agriinvest, ag stability, crop insurance? You don't use these programs?

[Hamloc]

Only January? What about the other 11 months?

55% of generation from renewables in the 12 months of 2023 A5!

And your response is to look at only one month?

Suck it up A5 and admit you are completely wrong when you say renewables are not going to work at any level.

Well Chuck2 right when we need wind generation most, when it is -30, it falls flat on its face!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Farm trucks dont drive on roads sometimes?

What about agriinvest, ag stability, crop insurance? You don't use these programs?

You are setting a bad example which forage and agstar keep emulating.

Do you have any more effective arguments that whataboutism?

Also, I didn't know that German farmers were eligible for agriinvest, agstability ,or Canadian crop insurance?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Well Chuck2 right when we need wind generation most, when it is -30, it falls flat on its face!

Like clockwork. When demand is highest, there is no wind. We've been following this for years, and it never fails. But the wind sure does blow when the Chinook comes back and demand drops.

[Hamloc]

Like clockwork. When demand is highest, there is no wind. We've been following this for years, and it never fails. But the wind sure does blow when the Chinook comes back and demand drops.

Yes, in all honesty wind production through December was quite good as it was one chinook after another but the problem his when you get stuck in a high pressure system like today. Wind is producing at roughly 1% of rated capacity this morning. Chuck2 in your future world where renewables supply all our power, how many days of storage capacity do you envision?!